[SweetEars]

I can't say, since I don't have the C04.

CCA CA4 i mean... sorry.. mistake

 

[FastAndClean]

**** is quite interesting iem for sure. I asked because I just ordered CCA C16 and was wondering if it is going to be an upgrade from already great sounding ****. Cheers

I will tell you today after work, my cca c16 should be here

 

[LamerDeluxe (tm)]

Notice you have both **** and C16, how do they compare? Just based on graphes I saw C16 is bit more brighter and has leaner bass?

Bass on the C16 is more tight and less strong. **** has better defined detail, stronger and deeper bass with a bit of a mid-bass hump and some bleeding. **** has a 3D soundstage like a sphere around your head. **** has much more focused stereo imaging, things like short stereo delays sound great on it. **** is harder to drive and doesn't isolate as well. It can be worn over the ear to minimize microphonics.

 

[Tatagiba]

Bass on the C16 is more tight and less strong. **** has better defined detail, stronger and deeper bass with a bit of a mid-bass hump and some bleeding. **** has a 3D soundstage like a sphere around your head. **** has much more focused stereo imaging, things like short stereo delays sound great on it. **** is harder to drive and doesn't isolate as well. It can be worn over the ear to minimize microphonics.

So, the **** is better than C16 ? Or did I get it whrong ?

 

[PhonoPhi]

So, the **** is better than C16 ? Or did I get it whrong ?

**** may sound better (more fun) in some aspects, but it is more in a direction of sound illusions compared to CA16, in my limited perception.

 

[FastAndClean]

Ok here we go

 

[Tatagiba]

Mine arrived yesterday, still deciding what I think about them ...

 

[FastAndClean]

on first listen they sound very neutral to me with mid bass bump but not too big, i was thinking that they will be bright from the measurements online but they are not

 

[FastAndClean]

ok with slight EQ (reducing the mid bass, bump in the very low bass) that thing is very good, very clean and natural sounding, the bass is very impressive for BA set, it is very tight but is not the fastest BA bass (ER4S is faster) but still fast, the mids sound natural, not much color there, the treble is not very extended, it probably drop off after 12-13khz, the fit is nice, the build is nice, they have very good isolation, very sensitive (10 out of 37 on my dac is normal level with minus 6db gain for the EQ), soundstage is wide, they have dark background, the imaging is very good, overall i like them very much
about the ****, C16 has better more organic mids, **** has better treble extention and details, also the bass on **** is very good, more power, it moves a lot of air but i cant decide for now if it is better because i like BA bass too
but i will say if you have the **** stay there, it is that good

 

[DynamicEars]

ok with slight EQ (reducing the mid bass, bump in the very low bass) that thing is very good, very clean and natural sounding, the bass is very impressive for BA set, it is very tight but is not the fastest BA bass (ER4S is faster) but still fast, the mids sound natural, not much color there, the treble is not very extended, it probably drop off after 12-13khz, the fit is nice, the build is nice, they have very good isolation, very sensitive (10 out of 37 on my dac is normal level with minus 6db gain for the EQ), soundstage is wide, they have dark background, the imaging is very good, overall i like them very much
about the ****, C16 has better more organic mids, **** has better treble extention and details, also the bass on **** is very good, more power, it moves a lot of air but i cant decide for now if it is better because i like BA bass too
but i will say if you have the **** stay there, it is that good

Thanks for this good non subjective impression. as i expected, they still suffer from mid bass bump and bleed just like CA10, wont buy it since i got ****, ZSN pro and C10 recently, but still always coming back to Kanas Pro

 

[FastAndClean]

Thanks for this good non subjective impression. as i expected, they still suffer from mid bass bump and bleed just like CA10, wont buy it since i got ****, ZSN pro and C10 recently, but still always coming back to Kanas Pro

**** has mid bass bump too, but they have more sub bass, both need mid bass reduction to shine, i should point that i don't like mid bass bump at all, it has to be completely flat or with slight reduction, also the sub bass has to dominate the mid bass to sound correct to me (still good bass power but without touching the tonality of the mids), KP is the closest to my favorite sound signature but i still use mid bass reduction with them, but very small (around minus 2.5db), **** and C16 need around 3db down

 

[FastAndClean]

 

[LamerDeluxe (tm)]

So, the **** is better than C16 ? Or did I get it whrong ?

Of all the earphones that I own at the moment, which includes the C16, I'm using the **** as my daily driver, I'm enjoying its sound the most.

EDIT: Ranking the ones I have:
1 - ****
2 - C16
3 - ZS7
4 - AS10
5 - C10

And I do like all of them.

 

[FastAndClean]

The battle of the chi fi multi BA s

 

[Tatagiba]

The battle of the chi fi multi BA s

Talk about them !