[AndroidVageta]

What's the thing covering the nozzle? Seems to just be a filter...can I...remove it? Anyone done this?

 

[FastAndClean]

What's the thing covering the nozzle? Seems to just be a filter...can I...remove it? Anyone done this?

that is probably a damper for the treble drivers, don't do it

 

[AndroidVageta]

that is probably a damper for the treble drivers, don't do it

Would it perhaps give more treble if I did......

Like what would happen if I did?

 

[FastAndClean]

Would it perhaps give more treble if I did......

Like what would happen if I did?

yes, it will give you some spikes if you remove it

 

[AndroidVageta]

yes, it will give you some spikes if you remove it

Possible to remove the dampener and add a tad bit of cotton as to dampen but not AS much? Lol...I love the C16 but the slight underwhelming amount of treble for having FOUR drivers is odd.

 

[FastAndClean]

Possible to remove the dampener and add a tad bit of cotton as to dampen but not AS much? Lol...I love the C16 but the slight underwhelming amount of treble for having FOUR drivers is odd.

the treble is not very good quality, it can be improved with wide bore tips but can not be fixed, it sound unrealistic compered to some of my other in ears

 

[Slater]

on the topic of wide bore tips, would the KZ starline tips (size M) considered wide enough?

Starlines are a medium bore. Large bore would be Whirlwind/Turbo tips, Spiral Dots, Auvios, etc. Lots of good generic/inexpensive wide bore tips as well.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Whirlwind/Turbo tips

Funny you said this because I was looking for examples of wide-bore tips only to look these up and notice that the grey/red ones are what I'm already using haha!

Don't know where I got them from though...I've got sooooo many tips...

 

[macky112]

Starlines are a medium bore. Large bore would be Whirlwind/Turbo tips, Spiral Dots, Auvios, etc. Lots of good generic/inexpensive wide bore tips as well.

Is there a width in mm to be considered wide?

 

[AndroidVageta]

Is there a width in mm to be considered wide?

Anything wider than the bore of the IEM...I'm measuring 5mm on my ruler

 

[fairx]

Hi

I tried my friend Kz zsn and rely like the bass. Just the right amount and highs are quite detail too.

However I don't really like zsn stage especially center depth. It sounds wide but very little depth. Most song I hear vocal inside my skull and that's not a way to enjoy music IMO. And the stage really collapse when playing any binaural track.

So, how does cc10 or any CCA compares to zsn?

 

[KimChee]

So which cable is good for C16.

 

[PhonoPhi]

So which cable is good for C16.

In my limited opinion, any, if you have a good source.
I could not discern any difference between an original cable, KZ copper/silver and NiceHCK 8 core.
I like the appearance of the latter (minus the straight plug).

 

[PhonoPhi]

What's the thing covering the nozzle? Seems to just be a filter...can I...remove it? Anyone done this?

I have one that fell off during cleaning...
If anything, it is a bit more clear sound without it, could not feel any changes in the frequency response/balance. Definitely, no "weird peaks" without it!
I believe the purpose of this screen is largely to keep dirt and ear wax out.
Actually, it is the lightest I've seen, so it does a very good job not interfering with the sound, in my opinion/perception, while it is quite fragile mechanically.
I like the design of AS10 with this filter deeper in the nozzle much more.

 

[BadReligionPunk]

Hi

I tried my friend Kz zsn and rely like the bass. Just the right amount and highs are quite detail too.

However I don't really like zsn stage especially center depth. It sounds wide but very little depth. Most song I hear vocal inside my skull and that's not a way to enjoy music IMO. And the stage really collapse when playing any binaural track.

So, how does cc10 or any CCA compares to zsn?

C10 has more bass and can get bloomy at times. Mids are warm, lush and smooth. Vocals both male and female are miles ahead of ZSN imo. Treble is more controlled and smooth. Stage is wider, deeper and separation is a bit better imo. ZSN strikes me as an energetic, W shape with forward upper mids and hairy treble while C10 is a smooth enjoyable U shape. Good for long time listening and all types of music.