Cayin N3Pro DAP: Dual AK4493 and MQA with Vacuum Tube
Mar 28, 2021 at 5:05 AM Post #2,056 of 2,518
Strange..
 
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Mar 28, 2021 at 5:07 AM Post #2,057 of 2,518
I have checked and MP3s with high quality appear YELLOW (should be red) but the other HI-RES formats are fine with different colours!
 
Mar 29, 2021 at 3:34 PM Post #2,059 of 2,518
Hello,
I have this dap, I use it with Iems. I like to buy some headphones.

Has anyone tried this dap, with Sennheiser hd650 or hd600? My other option is Hifiman HE400i 2020 version.

Best regards
For HD650 or HD600 you will be better served to run them in full balanced mode using the 4.4 socket of N3 Pro, then it will perform with full dynamics as the power output will be at 110mW which is similar to desktop level amplification. So be prepared to replace the cable of the HD600/650 to 4.4mm balanced if you plan to use them with N3 Pro
 
Mar 29, 2021 at 3:35 PM Post #2,060 of 2,518
Hello,
I have this dap, I use it with Iems. I like to buy some headphones.

Has anyone tried this dap, with Sennheiser hd650 or hd600? My other option is Hifiman HE400i 2020 version.

Best regards
I have HE400i 2020 , 650 and 660S.
All sound great from the balanced output.
From the tube output you may notice a lack of power with the 650.
 
Mar 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Post #2,062 of 2,518
Thank you very much for the answers. I wanted to use the tube output too. I should think about buying the Hifiman. But I'm afraid it's worse sound quality.

Thanks!
HE400i will run fine on the SE Tube phone out, it is just the HD600/650 will only sound better from the Dual AKM Balanced setup
 
Apr 8, 2021 at 7:33 PM Post #2,063 of 2,518
Can someone clarify if there's a better USB drivers that can be used on Android phones? (not UAPP) but something that is a bit more generic that will allow Tidal app to use it. I am asking because the last time I connect my N3 Pro to my phone I wasn't impressed with the output as I know it performs a LOT better when connected as a DAC with Windows 10 Cayin driver
 
Apr 8, 2021 at 7:50 PM Post #2,064 of 2,518
Can someone clarify if there's a better USB drivers that can be used on Android phones? (not UAPP) but something that is a bit more generic that will allow Tidal app to use it. I am asking because the last time I connect my N3 Pro to my phone I wasn't impressed with the output as I know it performs a LOT better when connected as a DAC with Windows 10 Cayin driver
Weird, UAPP in bit-perfect mode should sound pretty transparent. I haven’t tried connecting the N3Pro to my PC, perhaps the driver signed by Cayin optimizes playback.
Otherwise it could be because of the weaker current from the phone powering the DAP.
I don’t know of any generic solution that would work with Tidal, and I’m doubtful any exists as Tidal playback would require a license and the Head-fi community would have heard about it.
 
Apr 8, 2021 at 7:55 PM Post #2,065 of 2,518
Weird, UAPP in bit-perfect mode should sound pretty transparent. I haven’t tried connecting the N3Pro to my PC, perhaps the driver signed by Cayin optimizes playback.
Otherwise it could be because of the weaker current from the phone powering the DAP.
I don’t know of any generic solution that would work with Tidal, and I’m doubtful any exists as Tidal playback would require a license and the Head-fi community would have heard about it.
No I already mentioned earlier not UAPP as I don't want to use UAPP because I prefer to play Offline Tidal which UAPP can't do. And yes UAPP probably will play a lot better I believe. So as you said it could be the weak current that was from my Xiaomi Mi10t Pro. I sold that phone already and uses LG V35 now. So perhaps I can try with a different phones and see if it is still the same
 
Apr 9, 2021 at 4:16 AM Post #2,066 of 2,518
No I already mentioned earlier not UAPP as I don't want to use UAPP because I prefer to play Offline Tidal which UAPP can't do. And yes UAPP probably will play a lot better I believe. So as you said it could be the weak current that was from my Xiaomi Mi10t Pro. I sold that phone already and uses LG V35 now. So perhaps I can try with a different phones and see if it is still the same
Yeah you could try that. And to make sure you can get an external battery and a device to connect everything together, as I posted here, so you’re not dependent on the phone’s current. It’s quite the footprint though.
 
Apr 9, 2021 at 6:11 AM Post #2,067 of 2,518
No I already mentioned earlier not UAPP as I don't want to use UAPP because I prefer to play Offline Tidal which UAPP can't do. And yes UAPP probably will play a lot better I believe. So as you said it could be the weak current that was from my Xiaomi Mi10t Pro. I sold that phone already and uses LG V35 now. So perhaps I can try with a different phones and see if it is still the same

Try rooting your Android phone with Magisk, since it has several different sound processing modules available to install.
You may find one that provides the results you desire.
 
Apr 10, 2021 at 7:33 AM Post #2,068 of 2,518
Here's some Saturday morning gear porn for you all (Cayin N3Pro with the Mangird Tea is a match made in heaven).

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Apr 11, 2021 at 11:03 AM Post #2,069 of 2,518
@Andykong - A few suggestions for firmware improvements for this wonderful dap:

1. Battery charge threshold so that you don't damage the battery using it as a USB DAC.
2. 5 second delay option for turning off the tubes when you take out headphones. Each time I switch headphones the tubes stop and start.
3. Automatic album view mode when playing a track in folder view
4. Return to place in directory when navigating folder view while playing a song. Now it just starts at the top each time.
 
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