Cayin C9: Dual Nutube, Fully Balanced Class A/AB Portable HeadAmp

May 26, 2021 at 7:57 PM Post #4,351 of 6,374
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May 26, 2021 at 8:01 PM Post #4,353 of 6,374
Will it get me close to c9 + hugo 2?
I have the Paw6000 alongside my Hugo2. It's a fantastic DAP in and of itself. Very linear sounding with excellent detail retrival and imaging. It's neutral but not in any sense boring. I'd say it's within the ballpark of the Hugo2 tonally though not on that level technically. Fantastic pairing with the C9 for sure.
 
May 26, 2021 at 8:03 PM Post #4,354 of 6,374
Will it get me close to c9 + hugo 2?
Concept alone, of course not haha

Kind of an impossible question, asking if a DAP (which already has to compromise the amplification stage for battery/DAC space) under 2k can compete with C9+Hugo2. I think you will need to up your budget quite a bit or be ok with compromising the sound a bit.

Thing is, I don't like Chord house sound. However I can recc for you to look at Shanling M8 which I recently purchased. This is the best house sound imho. Offers fantastic low end and veers to the left of C9 house sound. This would complement the 'accurate' Hugo2+C9 well imho.
 
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May 26, 2021 at 8:05 PM Post #4,355 of 6,374
I can't compare vs Hugo 2 but in the sub-$2k the DX300 should be in consideration as well - the Amp module with dedicated LO should be announced/released this week supposedly, or in any case soon, which should only improve things even further.

@twister6 has a DAP pair up section near the end of his C9 review that might provide some better relative insight.
Yes. So far the front runners for my next dap are DX 300 and LP6K
 
May 26, 2021 at 8:25 PM Post #4,356 of 6,374
Concept alone, of course not haha

Kind of an impossible question, asking if a DAP (which already has to compromise the amplification stage for battery/DAC space) under 2k can compete with C9+Hugo2. I think you will need to up your budget quite a bit or be ok with compromising the sound a bit.

Thing is, I don't like Chord house sound. However I can recc for you to look at Shanling M8 which I recently purchased. This is the best house sound imho. Offers fantastic low end and veers to the left of C9 house sound. This would complement the 'accurate' Hugo2+C9 well imho.
Sorry, I miscommunicated. I want a Dap when paired with C9 has comparable sound quality as Hugo 2 + C9.

In other words, DX300 + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9 or LT6K + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9. I thought my R6 2020 would do it and it isn't even close.
 
May 26, 2021 at 8:37 PM Post #4,357 of 6,374
Sorry, I miscommunicated. I want a Dap when paired with C9 has comparable sound quality as Hugo 2 + C9.

In other words, DX300 + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9 or LT6K + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9. I thought my R6 2020 would do it and it isn't even close.
Paw6000 with C9 is heading in that direction but not on same level as Hugo 2 and C9. If you like Chord house sound, you'll probably like the Lotoo.

You should also check out N6ii with A02 amp for C9. I recently got it and am super impressed. Slightly different tuning to Chord and Lotoo but retains clarity and transparency. Perfect synergy with C9, and the A02 module scales exceptionally well.
 
May 26, 2021 at 8:40 PM Post #4,358 of 6,374
Paw6000 with C9 is heading in that direction but not on same level as Hugo 2 and C9. If you like Chord house sound, you'll probably like the Lotoo.

You should also check out N6ii with A02 amp for C9. I recently got it and am super impressed. Slightly different tuning to Chord and Lotoo but retains clarity and transparency. Perfect synergy with C9, and the A02 module scales exceptionally well.
For Cayin, I am going to wait until they replace the N6ii maybe at the end of next year. I really love the Lotoo sound. I might just get it. I am looking for a more portable pairing with my C9 than the Hugo 2.
 
May 26, 2021 at 8:50 PM Post #4,359 of 6,374
For Cayin, I am going to wait until they replace the N6ii maybe at the end of next year. I really love the Lotoo sound. I might just get it. I am looking for a more portable pairing with my C9 than the Hugo 2.
For $1,000.00 it is a great deal. I love mine over a year and never any issues, no software freezes, no card issues, no issues at all, completely dependable. Learning curve is very short, turn it on and you are listening to what you searched for in seconds.

Plug it into the C9 you become a bit less portable still easy to take with you, and the quality of the sound you hear is a lot more engaging.

Stand alone on a walk or something still awesome.

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May 27, 2021 at 3:12 AM Post #4,360 of 6,374
i For $1,000.00 it is a great deal. I love mine over a year and never any issues, no software freezes, no card issues, no issues at all, completely dependable. Learning curve is very short, turn it on and you are listening to what you searched for in seconds.

Plug it into the C9 you become a bit less portable still easy to take with you, and the quality of the sound you hear is a lot more engaging.

Stand alone on a walk or something still awesome.
I agree, 1k is a good price. I also had no issues with my Paw6K until about a week ago when the balanced output suddenly and randomly stopped working. Andrew from MusicTeck is taking care of it, thanks to his excellent service, and probably it was some kind of freak occurrence.

As you say, 2 second power on, instant scan of SD card, minimal but effective OS all adds up to a great user experience. I'd also add, the amp portion on the Paw6K is very good. I had a WM1A prior to the Lotoo, and moving to the Paw6k felt like a considerable upgrade despite being the same price.
 
May 27, 2021 at 4:04 AM Post #4,361 of 6,374
I would probably be very interested in buyin Shanling M8 if it had a lineout that's ideal for C9 as well. I would also probably enjoy it just as stand-alone. But for now I think I'll just wait a year or so to see what Shanling, Cayin, Ibasso etc. come up with in the future.
 
May 27, 2021 at 4:21 AM Post #4,362 of 6,374
I would probably be very interested in buyin Shanling M8 if it had a lineout that's ideal for C9 as well. I would also probably enjoy it just as stand-alone. But for now I think I'll just wait a year or so to see what Shanling, Cayin, Ibasso etc. come up with in the future.

YMMV, but I am very satisfied with M8 to C9. I took a chance with the C9 at the time of purchase as I didn't know if the warm signature of the M8 would suit the warm leaning C9 but if anything the C9 ups the ante on the detail and staging and improves dynamics. Keeps things tight but musical and not overly warm.
 
May 27, 2021 at 4:35 AM Post #4,363 of 6,374
YMMV, but I am very satisfied with M8 to C9. I took a chance with the C9 at the time of purchase as I didn't know if the warm signature of the M8 would suit the warm leaning C9 but if anything the C9 ups the ante on the detail and staging and improves dynamics. Keeps things tight but musical and not overly warm.

Right yes, I forgot to write that the sound signature in itself might be excellent. Just a tough purchase decision to make, since obviously one would also like a dedicated balanced lineout for C9. Demoing (incl. with my own C9) would be great, but I don't have that option, at least not where I live...
 
May 27, 2021 at 8:46 AM Post #4,364 of 6,374
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There are a ton of fakes on the market (especially of the VTC6) that are laptop or industrial pulls that have been relabeled. Learn how to spot a fake (solder marks on top or bottom, printing on label instead of on canister, etc.)

Here is a good video to help you learn how to spot fakes:
 
May 27, 2021 at 10:12 AM Post #4,365 of 6,374
Sorry, I miscommunicated. I want a Dap when paired with C9 has comparable sound quality as Hugo 2 + C9.

In other words, DX300 + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9 or LT6K + C9 vs Hugo 2 + C9. I thought my R6 2020 would do it and it isn't even close.
The SP2000 and C9 does … and sounds less warm, more neutral actually than the Hugo 2 to C9. It’s a stunning pairing. Widens the soundstage, adds that delicious organic tonality. I find it very musical and relaxing.

On Class A / Tube and Trailli.

I don’t think you can get that much better. I was listening to the Trailli out of the Naim headphone edition. And the SP2K - C9 sounds both technically and subjectively better.
 

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