[FooFighter]

Okay clarify my earlier comments Thummim with C9 is no match for Traillii with P6PRO that is what my ears tell me. My heart on the other hand is much more engaged with the former. Hope that makes sense.

not making decisions easier

 

[bluestorm1992]

Quality is not linear. In other words, in audio, products don't get a number representing its quality and if one product has a higher number, that means it's better than another product with a lower number. IEMs and Headphones have many dimensions. Usability, fit, comfort, beauty are all important dimensions as well. Even within sound, there are many dimensions such as sound stage, resolution, detail retrieval, macro and micro dynamics, timbre, etc and no headphone or IEM can be better than all other choices in every dimension. So, I don't think of levels the way you are thinking about it.

What I can say is that the C9 improves every product I've paired with it. Some more than others. The biggest thing it has done is made my IEMs sound more like my full sized headphones to the point that I don't miss them anymore. In fact, I feel that I am losing isolation when I put on the full sized cans. I think with the C9, I would almost live without full sized headphones. I may not travel with them anymore and use them only at home.

Same for me... No finding full-size cans too much better now while losing that convenience.

 

[425455]

Confused a little bit, I read this a couple times.
You are using headphone not IEM correct?
Cannot tell from your signature?
Are you saying you used the money you could have spent on a Traillii and purchased a high end desk top amp instead?

What are you impatiently waiting for?

Sorry for not being clearer...

I've been on the iem upgrade path for a while so I thought a change is as good as a rest.

So instead of buying a trailli + amp I bought a t+a ha200 amp and their solitaire p hp.

I've never had cans before.

Using my cans and iems every day.

 

[RTodd]

not making decisions easier

Yep, you have to hear it that is the only way, I have tried Odin and LX both five times now, and I still do not hear what other people do, and I feel like I am alone in that inability to appreciate them.

Is C9 worth it, is Traillii worth it, I think on both of those we can say with a very high degree of certainty, for anyone thinking about them yes, do it if you can.

 

[bluestorm1992]

Speaking of the fun after getting C9, I am now starting to explore 1DD IEMs as they work EXTREMELY WELL with C9's power and timbre.

SK from Final x Dita on the way from Andrew.

 

[RTodd]

Speaking of the fun after getting C9, I am now starting to explore 1DD IEMs as they work EXTREMELY WELL with C9's power and timbre.

SK from Final x Dita on the way from Andrew.

Awesome, patiently waiting on your assessment. Sound profile, and is that cable serviceable?

 

[bluestorm1992]

Awesome, patiently waiting on your assessment. Sound profile, and is that cable serviceable?

I don’t think so... I have a OG Oslo cable and will probably just swap that in. Will also get an adaptor for my Iliad to try out the pairing. If it works, I will send it to @Eric Chong for a retermination. Gold cable + gold faceplate IEM.

 

[RTodd]

Edit: what I am starting to understand is that Traillii is maybe the best Allrounder there is but not surpassing the best IEMs in their specific categories.
That possibility to taste different flavours scaled to their maximum capabilities is I guess a strong argument for C9

+1

 

[ian91]

Totally feel the same where headphones are concerned. My Arya gets very little air time now. It's a bit of a shame as it's a very good headphone, but I just get so much more from both my IEMs.

Also, the fact the 3DT doesn't improve to the degree the MK2 does just shows what a stellar job they did with the 3DT. I'm seeing a cleaner performance from the 3DT out of the C9. The note weight is better and tonality is still on point.

As other posters have commented - the leather case does a great job taking some of the heat away from the case into its metal frame. Very happy camper right now .

 

[bluestorm1992]

Staying with my initial post what I find amazing is that C9 can actually scale IEMs up in order to come to a Traillii level with their own signatures and in these areas even surpass it such as Thummim + C9 (just speculating as I haven't listened myself).
For some it works better than others (see: 3dt)
So actually I want to get a feeling of where money is invested in a future proof way and at the same time come to a maximum possible listening experience.
I guess that's something many of us are after right?

Edit: what I am starting to understand is that Traillii is maybe the best Allrounder there is but not surpassing the best IEMs in their specific categories.
That possibility to taste different flavours scaled to their maximum capabilities is I guess a strong argument for C9

Yes, I came to the same conclusion in my Traillii review regarding Traillii being an excellent all rounder, but you can find IEMs that surpass it in a specific category.

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/oriolus-traillii-jp.24343/reviews#review-25433

 

[RTodd]

My audio universe

 

[tawmizzzz]

Anyway didn't want to spam C9 thread but the thought is striking and discussable Imho
a) get a C9 and bring your IEMs closer to Traillii level
b) get a L&P W2 and connect a Traillii and get the same experience if not better thus saving lots of bucks previously spent on DAPs and amps...

I am just painting the scenario black-white here for the sake of discussion without ever having listened to either C9 or Traillii...

Not sure which other IEMs you have, but Option B for me all day (as I’m mostly a 1-2 IEM only guy). Traillii, as mentioned, pairs well with just about everything. C9 pairing is incredibly technical but to my ears, at expense of musicality due to such large staging.

Traillii + w2 is better than any other pairing I’ve heard with other TOTL IEMs with TOTL DAPs (e.g; Inf2/Odin with R8 or Thummim with R8)-Traillii is so technical by nature that the more forward upper mids and subbass from W2, while retaining summit-fi layering and detail/staging makes it an ideal balance of enjoyment while still in a league of itself. The C9 did wonders for my Elixir and played nicely off pre-amp with Infinity 2, but still doesn’t touch T + W2.

I also agree Traillii is the best all-rounder but that doesn’t do it full justice. It’s still the best treble and bass I’ve heard to date, and top 3-4 in mids, so specialists in some regards and still great versatility for a “safe” option.

Not sure if that’s what your question was but hope it helps lol

 

[Tanalasta]

Comments on Dap -> C9 and full sized cans?

 

[fuhransahis]

Comments on Dap -> C9 and full sized cans?

Pairs excellently with the DX300 and Empyrean! Can imagine it'll only be better with the DX300's dedicated LO module that'll hopefully be released soon.

Best part of C9 is its versatility, where you can tweak to suit your your tastes and mood.

 

[DaYooper]

My own little bit of the universe