CanJam SoCal 2022 Impressions Thread (September 17-18, 2022)
Sep 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM Post #346 of 638
Yeah, it weighs like 24lbs. The UD-505 weighs half that. It is a big boy. I wonder if TEAC will come out with a new master clock to match the size of the UD-701n and the new power amps for stacking. I want to hear the UD-701n badly as the differences in sonics are supposed to be significant. And the UD-505 is an amazing unit.
I guess next time.. I'm not certain why I rarely if ever I read or hear praise for the UD-505. I think the UD-505 is criminally underrated and It kind of reminds me of the T+A HA 200 a bit. If you get the opportunity to audition the UD-701N I'd like to hear your thoughts.
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 6:37 PM Post #347 of 638
I guess next time.. I'm not certain why I rarely if ever I read or hear praise for the UD-505. I think the UD-505 is criminally underrated and It kind of reminds me of the T+A HA 200 a bit. If you get the opportunity to audition the UD-701N I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I agree, I think the UD-505 is one of the most underrated DACs on the market. I am hoping to purchase a UD-701n next year. I love the flexibility with voltage, upconverting, and now they have added an XLR for headphones along with a streamer. Plus a reference quality DAC. It is an extremely attractive box too... Curious how the new UD-505x sounds as well with AKM to Sabre DAC.
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 7:12 PM Post #349 of 638
That UD-701 was the one thing I wanted to listen to that I didn't get back around to. They were having network issues Saturday morning when I came around. Good to know it left a favorable impression.
Having owned the UD-505, I would've loved to listen to the 701n. TEAC makes amazing stuff. They just have an incredible sense of pacing and realism. Their clocking tech is second to none for an OEM DAC/AMP. Glad to hear the impressions were so good. It is a great product!
The 701N is MASSIVE.. I was expecting it to be about the same size as the UD-505. Stock Photography and scaling in real life are never what they appear to be. I hope I get a chance to hear the 701N in the future. TEAC has been my go to for DACs since I started my journey on Head-Fi 5 Years ago.
Yeah, it weighs like 24lbs. The UD-505 weighs half that. It is a big boy. I wonder if TEAC will come out with a new master clock to match the size of the UD-701n and the new power amps for stacking. I want to hear the UD-701n badly as the differences in sonics are supposed to be significant. And the UD-505 is an amazing unit.
I agree, I think the UD-505 is one of the most underrated DACs on the market. I am hoping to purchase a UD-701n next year. I love the flexibility with voltage, upconverting, and now they have added an XLR for headphones along with a streamer. Plus a reference quality DAC. It is an extremely attractive box too... Curious how the new UD-505x sounds as well with AKM to Sabre DAC.

Glad to see this bad boy getting some love. And yes, it is huge! When compared to their other smaller components, it truly dwarfs them when they're side-by-side!! Its measurements are 17.5"W x 4.4"H x 13.1"D and it weighs 26lbs.:sweat_smile:You definitely get your $4000 worth!

https://teac.jp/int/product/ud-701n/feature


After hearing how good it sounded, and with you guys saying the 500 series DACs also sound excellent for the $$$, I'm now VERY interested picking up one of their older DACs from the used market and giving it a try. :sunglasses:
 
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Sep 19, 2022 at 7:14 PM Post #350 of 638
Isn't that a Nautilus? The power tubes look like KT88's rather than 300B's, and the Red October has hum-pots but I don't see any in that picture.
That's a nautilus yeh
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 7:18 PM Post #351 of 638
Glad to see this bad boy getting some love. And yes, it is huge! When compared to their other smaller components, it truly dwarfs them when they're side-by-side!! Its measurement are 17.5"W x 4.4"H x 13.1"D and it weighs 26lbs. :sweat_smile:You definitely get your $4000 worth!

https://teac.jp/int/product/ud-701n/feature


After hearing how good it sounded, and with you guys saying the 500 series also sounds excellent for the $$$, I'm now VERY interested picking up one of their older DACs from the used market and giving it a try. :sunglasses:
This is awesome! Highly recommend the UD-505. The first time I heard it the hairs stood up on the back of my neck. I was completely enthralled by the way it handles rhythm, pace and the organic quality of my music. I listened for an hr and bought one. I have moved on, but will eventually find my way back to a UD-701n. The UD-505 is worth whatever you can find it for on the used market. I miss mine to this day.
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 7:27 PM Post #352 of 638
Glad to see this bad boy getting some love. And yes, it is huge! When compared to their other smaller components, it truly dwarfs them when they're side-by-side!! Its measurement are 17.5"W x 4.4"H x 13.1"D and it weighs 26lbs. :sweat_smile:You definitely get your $4000 worth!

https://teac.jp/int/product/ud-701n/feature


After hearing how good it sounded, and with you guys saying the 500 series also sounds excellent for the $$$, I'm now VERY interested picking up one of their older DACs from the used market and giving it a try. :sunglasses:
I used to have my 505 paired with a Liquid Platinum.. That was a sweet sounding combination that robbed me of my productivity on many weekends. I gave up on tubes a little too soon as I had no interest in tube rolling. The Blue Hawaii was pretty much confirmation of that there are levels to this. You may be able to find a UD-503 still.. It's been a long time since I've seen one in the classifieds. I hope you find one!!
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 7:31 PM Post #353 of 638
I used to have my 505 paired with a Liquid Platinum.. That was a sweet sounding combination that robbed me of my productivity on many weekends. I gave up on tubes a little too soon as I had no interest in tube rolling. The Blue Hawaii was pretty much confirmation of that there are levels to this. You may be able to find a UD-503 still.. It's been a long time since I've seen one in the classifieds. I hope you find one!!
There is a UD-505 on the TMR website as of the other day.
 
Sep 19, 2022 at 7:46 PM Post #354 of 638
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Sep 19, 2022 at 7:52 PM Post #355 of 638
It was fantastic to see everyone again this year! So glad we had beautiful weather over the weekend, too; while we prep our show report, we’d like to start by thanking all of you who stopped by our table! It’s always awesome to speak with all of you, and we can’t wait to do it again next year.

What was one of your favorite new things, music or gear, that you heard at the show?

We’ll start with a big thank you to the owner of this amazing Omega; it was awesome to hear it, and don’t worry, we’ll share our thoughts in our full CanJam SoCal 2022 show report!
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Sep 19, 2022 at 7:58 PM Post #356 of 638
Isn't that a Nautilus? The power tubes look like KT88's rather than 300B's, and the Red October has hum-pots but I don't see any in that picture.

I think you are right. I thought about it before I posted it thinking the tubes were wrong. I couldn't find my pic of the red october or I was listening to nautilus. I was listening to the amp on the left.

I will either change the pic or update the label

edited to note: I replaced the incorrect picture with the correct Red October picture. Thank you for point it out to me.
 
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Sep 19, 2022 at 8:06 PM Post #358 of 638
That's a nautilus yeh

I found the correct pic. I posted the wrong one. I will update it when I get back to my room. The correct pic is a white red october which is weird since there is a red nautilus right next to it. I even have the caldera paired with the white red october.

edited to note: Correct picture replaced into my impressions. Thanks!
 
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Sep 19, 2022 at 8:39 PM Post #359 of 638
<Please note that this is a work in progress. I am doing it in several parts. I will remove this note when it is finished>


This was an epic CanJam experience. It was so big, I could have used 2 more days to hear everything I wanted to hear and that includes the fact that I have already heard a lot of products in my last 3 CanJam experiences. This is my first attempt to create an overall impressions thread I hope you like it. It is a summary of the products I really loved at CanJam Socal 2022.

First of all, I came along with what we call the Watercooler Travelling team. We post on this thread: The Watercooler:

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At CanJam Socal, my favorite portable products were these:

Best new DAP: Hiby RS8. Finally, a TOTL R2R DAP with Android for Streaming. I A/B tested this DAP vs. LP6 Gold and I preferred the sound of the RS8. The sound was more powerful and dynamic with that great R2R natural sound and treble response with great bass. It takes the already great RS6 and takes it up a few levels. I already got on the wait list for buying this DAP.

Here is a picture of the Hiby RS8 paired with the T+A Solitaire P headphone.

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Best of Show for new IEMs.

Win: Astell & Kern/Empire Ears Odyssey
. To me, this is what I hoped for in an Odin II. It has that glorious bass response you would expect from Empire Ears and their W9+ Dynamic Drivers. But, it also has bone conduction, slightly tamed down upper mids and better treble response. Pair with First Times Cable and my N8ii, I found it to be the best Empire Ears product yet and I am a huge Empire Ears fan. I plan on buying it.

Astell & Kern / Empire Ears Odyssey

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Place: Noble Viking Ragnar. This IEM is focused on the mids and I love great mids. From the moment I put these into my ears, I was hooked and totally engaged. It has a big and present sound. The key to a great mids focused IEM is to make sure the bass and treble are sufficient so it doesn't sound bass light and the treble isn't veiled. I think that Noble knocked this one out of the park by finding that balance. I bought this IEM.

Noble Viking Ragnar

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Show: Unique Melody Multiverse Mentor. For a 12 BA and bone conduction driver. It has big bass. The tuning is fantastic and borders on bass head levels of bass. I think this is the best BA bass I have ever heard. Leo from UM told me that they custom designed new drivers for the bass which gives it is texture which is uncharacteristic of BA drivers. I honestly did not know the driver configuration when I heard it and I though it had dynamic drivers. If it weren't for the above 2 IEMs, I would have bought this. Maybe in the future.

Unique Melody Multiverse Mentor

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New Cable for Traillii and Advar.

I did not have time to listen and compare all of the great new cables. I did have a mission which was to find 2 new cables. One for Traillii and one for Meze Advar.

For Traillii, I heard that several good candidates were Effect Audio Centurion, Eletech Ode to Laura, First Times Shielding or Meet Again. I already own First Times Shielding and Meet Again and I have a lot of PW Audio cables so I wanted to try something else. Centurion is an outstanding cable. I loved it when I first heard it. But, for Traillii, it killed the bass response. It was too bright. I preferred First Times Shielding. Then, when I paired it with Ode to Laura, it has just the right balance I was seeking. Not too bassy, not too bright. Just the right balance of everything I care about. Bass, mids and treble. And, with a very nice look. The Meet Again cable I may have preferred slightly, especially the new Special Edition, but the green color did not work with the Traillii reddish color. It would go with a nice green IEM. What is my new pairing for Traillii?

Eletech Ode to Laura

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For Advar, I love the IEM, but I hate the cable. Terrible feel to it. I went to Effect Audio to see if it any of its new Signature Series cables would work. I already heard Ares S and Cadmus in the prototype phase. So, I first tried Eros S. Way too bright and lost the bass response. Same thing with Cadmus. The best pairing was with Ares S. I love the ergonomics of the cable, so I bought it.

Effect Audio Ares S

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My favorite desktop products at CanJam Socal were as follows:

Full Sized Headphones:

Win: ZMF Caldera. This is the new ZMF Planar headphone. Bevin was nice enough to let me take care pair out into the show room and pair it with a lot of different amps. By far my favorite pairing was with the DIY amp ZMF had in its demo room. It is known as the Glenn GL3. If they offered this for sale, I would buy it at any price. Paired with the ZMF Caldera, it was end game sound. It was truly one of the few moments where I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Second favorite was with the Ampsandsound Red October where it took on a very smooth characteristic. Then, the Wells Audio stack which is my dream desktop system where the sound stage expands to sound like a 2 channel system. I will be buying this headphone when it comes out in November.

ZMF Caldera paired with Cayin HA-3A amp

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What makes the Caldera special is that it sounds like a combination of a Dynamic Driver and Planar headphone. It is just a planar, but Zach tuned it in a way that it maintains that ZMF mid forward sound with technical attributes of a planar making it a one of a kind sound. Interestingly, when you pair the Caldera with different amps, it takes on different characteristics like a chameleon. Zach was aiming for a different sound instead of just competing with planars. I think he achieved it. It sounds like a ZMF headphone, but with the resolution of a planar. Truly spectacular and different. Couple these sounds attributes with the beautiful artisan woodwork that only ZMF is known for and you have a one of a kind headphone that everyone should take a moment to hear. It's probably why Zach's demo room was the busiest of the entire show.

Glenn GL3 Custom Amp (I want this amp).

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Place: Stax SR-X9000. This is my current favorite headphone. I heard it first in Chicago and then at another headfier's home. This time, I got to hear it against other Electrostats including the Shangri-la jr and sr and I loved the X9000 more than any of them. In an A/B test of X9000 vs. my prior number 1, the X9000 edged it out due its slightly larger stage. Both have fantastic tonality especially for female jazz vocals and classical music. What is truly fascinating about the X9000 is it does not have overly ethereal sound typical of other electrostatic headphones.

Stax SR-X9000 paired with Woo Audio 3ES Electostatic Amp

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Show: T+A Solitaire P. This headphone has fantastic bass. It can really dig deep and extends all they down to 10 hz and below. I got to hear this in a quiet environment since the T+A guys were having problems with their demo set up and I provided them with some cables to help them to allow DAPs to connect to their amp. This the third time I have heard them and this time properly amped. I can say it is fantastic and truly worthy of the praise it is getting from those lucky enough to have heard it. In addition, it can be powered by an amp. I did get a unique opportunity to hear it paired with the new RS8 DAP from Hiby courtesy of Musicteck. I thought it was a bit under powered because I had it all the way up to 80 to hear the full frequency response, especially its great subbass, but this could be because of the noisy show room floor.

T+A Solitaire P with HA200 Headphone amp

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AMPs.

I did not have enough time to hear all of the amps I had on my demo list. So, unfortunately, this is not a comprehensive list. But, it does reflect the best of what I heard. The way I judge an amp is if it can properly drive my Susvara. That means it has it normally great mids and revealing treble, but also delivers a great bass response. I usually say that if a Susvara sounds bass light, it is because it is not properly amped.

My favorite amp is the Wells Audio Headtrip II level II monoblocks. I never like the LCD5 until I heard it on this amp. In fact everything sounds good on it It was another mind blowing experience. Stage outside of the head. Great separation and resolution. Sounds more like speakers than headphones. I think this amp can make my AirPods pro sound like Susvara.

Headtrip II level III monoblock amps with Commander Level III tube preamplifier and Cipher Tube DAC (my dream end game system)

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Second favorite is the Woo Audio WA33. This sounds just so good with the 1266TC. The 1266TC really needs a tube amp with great mids to sound right and this amp does it right. It is nearly as good as the Wells Audio system at a fraction of the cost.

Woo Audio WA33

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Third favorite was the new Woo Audio WA23. Besides making my Susvara sing with a great bass response. It is a beautiful work of art.

Woo Audio WA23 LUNA with my personal Susvara

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Ampsandsound Red October. I love how smooth this made all of my headphones sound especially Susvara. Great bass and smooth treble and overall sound.

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I got to heard the Benchmark HPA4 headphone amp. I liked it, but I was really looking forward to hearing how the AHB2 speaker amp would sound with my Susvara to see if a speaker amp would level up the sound. Maybe next time.

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I also did not have time to listen to the Zahl HM1. Next time.

Thanks so much to the head fi team for putting on a great show. I wish it could be over 4-days

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My favorite reviewers
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Sweet, sweet post.

Everyone looks so happy.

Looks like this was a CanJam about meeting friends as much as it was about trying new gears.
 

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