fejnomit
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Only on a graph when compared to another graph. I'm giving you my real-world impressions. Take it or leave it. If you want to reject a set based on the graph, go for it.
Campfire Audio Chromatic Series
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hungryewok
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I believe there's something wrong with the measurement itself. This just looks extremely incoherent and not suited for vocals with a huge drop past 11 khz.
parawizard
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Maybe we'll get additional measurements. I've always wanted a CFA ciem but they haven't made one yet with a tuning I like. Auditioned Equinox twice and Supermoon once. Solstice didn't have enough bass to try.
So with the reviews of the Bonneville here I went ahead and upgraded from UE 7pros ciem. I haven't been following the scene for a few years so I wanted to get something new. Hopefully it works out! Does anyone have a mid range DAP recommendation to pair it with?
Amen to this. I could walk from this hobby right now with just Bonneville and SR35 and not look back. (Though I would miss my Trifecta.)
I'm not. I came for the gear, but I'm staying for the community.
Seems pretty accurate IMO; as I said earlier in this thread they have a very audible dip in the upper mids that muffles vocals.I believe there's something wrong with the measurement itself. This just looks extremely incoherent and not suited for vocals with a huge drop past 11 khz.
I don't hear muffled vocals in Bonneville. I wouldn't call it a vocal-centric or overly vocal forward IEM by any means but the vocals sound in no way muted, veiled or obstructed to my ears.
Edit: YMMV Etc. etc.
Edit 2: I know this is not possible for some folks, and I don't deny that graphs have their use/utility but I encourage folks who do have the means to try these for yourself and spend a bit of time before forming judgement.
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I mean it's not like it's horrible or unlistenable, just noticable when compared with other IEMs imo. Especially if you've just spent multiple days with the Supermoon which has a big bump in that same area
Definitely concur with Rock here. Of course if you AB against an IEM like Supermoon that has clarity dialled up to 11 you're going to hear a different presentation, but by the same token you can then call Supermoon overly bright and etched (neither of which it is). I think it was Twain that wrote: "comparison is the death of joy". In my experience (and as a reviewer, I have a bit of that) direct A/B comparisons are the surest way to distort the qualities of both IEMs. After all, we can only listen with one IEM at a time, so take time to listen, let the brain work its magic and magically EQ the sound, and you'll get a sense of what each of these IEMs is trying to do (and in my opinion, do very well).I mean it's not like it's horrible or unlistenable, just noticable when compared with other IEMs imo. Especially if you've just spent multiple days with the Supermoon which has a big bump in that same area
That’s key right there…I find that the moment I A/B with radically different IEM it’s hard to make up my mind. But if I just let go and give time to adapt and ease into an IEM’s signature, either I get into it or it’s not for me. I always take them on their own now.
fejnomit
1000+ Head-Fier
Yes for sure - I find I can't actually A/B in the sense of switching back and forth quickly between sets without feeling like both suck. The brain magic, as you so aptly put it, needs time to take effect. I actually listen to a whole album on one set now, to get the mood and gestalt, while also taking notes. Then I take a break. Then I go through the same album with the second set, again for the overall presentation, but still taking notes. Only after this can I make any sense of what I am hearing. Also, listening to the Bonnevilles and the then trying any other set right after is a sure fire way to feel like there's no bass!
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