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Hey everyone, I made an account just to post this, I'm sorry if I sound inexperienced, but i'm really a noob to all of this. In the past I have owned the meelec m9s the meelec r1s, and I currently have the meelec m6s. I use the m6s for working out and wanted to buy 2 other pairs for better sound quality. I'm thinking of one pair for home use (Audio Technica ATH-m50s) and another pair for portable use on the go or on the bus, etc. The m6s are great but I think I can get better sound quality. Since i'm planning on getting the m50s, my budget is about $50 street price, so like 100 retail. I was thinking of the meelectronics a151 as I heard they have armature, but i'm not sure because I heard that they lack in bass. By the way I listen to mostly techno music, but also enjoy all other types of music. So I don't know if I should go with the a151s because they only have a single armature driver, or if I should go with some other ones. I would really like earbud because i need them to be portable, and somewhat durable, although I never plan to run with them. Please send me recommendations as I have practically 0 experience with these types of headphones. I am open to any headphones, and if it's really worth it, I could save up more money and go with some up to 75 street price. So should I get the a151s, even though they don't have that much bass, or should I go with some nice bassy headphones, if so, what headphones would yall recommend that have some nice bass? Thanks in advance.
Would it be correct to assume the M50s as being a reference point, at least in terms of bass quantity? Would it also be correct to assume you would want a similar bass presentation, in terms of note thickness, placement, etc? Or would you just be referring to "good bass" in general. And would there be any other criteria regarding the rest of the sound spectrum - do you want decent mids, what sort of overall signature, any preferences in terms of soundstaging or presentation?
But in this case you definitely needn't restrict yourself to one brand if it's not justified.
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I also made this account to ask for opinion same as the user above me but my problem is should I get Meelectronics A151, Sony XBA1 or Feels Pro 900. Currently somebody is offering them for almost the same price. I listen to pop songs and occasionally dabble in dupstep, do not use amp.
All help is appreciated, Thanks
Again, while genres are helpful, it'd also be helpful if you specified your preferences as I mentioned in the reply to the quote above yours.
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Yeah the UE900 are too expencive for my intended use.
I'm willing to sacrifice some in the audio quality region. The main thing that I'm looking for is good isolation, good comfort for my (right) ear and build quality. The key requirement is that it has to be able to fit my right-ear, otherwise I can erase that option.
You mentioned that the Ety's are going to be a cinch and that I should better be safe than sorry. I quite didn't get this part, could you please be more eleborate in terms of comfor?. Sound wise, I've already looked on those in which fields I'll have to sacrifice. Most important thing for my choice for an IEM is comfort for my ear-type.
Could you please also list some recommendations on IEM's that have a small housing? I'd very much appreciate it.
I'm definitely referring to practicality aspects when saying that they would be a "cinch". The shape and the ergonomics (straight body, never having to touch the concha or otherwise), not to mention the durability and isolation (as I did mention prior) just makes sense in your case.
Small housing - depends on how you would define that. Not to mention, something can have a small housing but can ultimately still irritate the problem area in this case. Still, the PFE012 would be one to look at in the end. Relatively flat body, small, similar sig to the Etys. Though it is shallow insertion so you won't get immense amounts of isolation. The A161P and the GR01s are fairly straight, small, and unobtrusive with regards to that problem area.
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My budget ~ 250-270$
headphones
Location: India
Place of Buying: online , can buy product from other country websites like amazon
Music preference: pop rock,rock, r&b, hip hop, dance, electro (sometimes) ,
i dont have much knowledge about music genre
i prefer artists like:
david guetta,
maroon 5 ,
usher,
Justin timberlake, enrique, pitbull, chris brown, bruno mars, rihanna
This will my first major purchase in music instruements
for source i will be buying a new DAP or PMP (BUDGET FOR PMP/ DAP: havent decided but around 350$ i guess)
i am open to using Amp
i dont have trained years
i like bass but bass should not overshadow / overpower vocals or other sounds, bass should be present and punchy but it should not be fatiguing ,i am not a bass head
i am not a pro so please use noob language while explaining to me
Non-overpowering but present bass, punchy, non-fatiguing.
Would you have any criteria in terms of fit? You also haven't mentioned whether or not you're looking for on-ear or over-ear (if it matters) headphones. But you did specify headphones so I'll assume that IEMs (earphones, in-ear monitors) are out of the equation.
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Thanks for the help. Couldn't find that heretics thread, but I'll look more later. I feel bad taking up this thread lol! But there's so much to learn.
So regarding that FR chart. I see that there's some gain in the lower frequencies and it's a bit lower from 1kHz to ~8kHz. Is this where that "sibilance" comes into play or is it lower from 1 kHz to 5kHz? I'm not even sure if it's what you'd call sibilance. It's just those really piercing highs that bug my head. The spike @ ~9kHz seems like it'd make the sound very bright?
Also: Is there a better thread to be asking this stuff. I feel like I'm REALLLLYYYY off topic.
1kHz-4 would be the mid-midrange (if you could call it such), but the usual area where most of the energy is contained would be the upper mids - 4-7kHz. 7-8kHz is the sibliance area - any emphasis around there would accentuate the "ssh" sounds, and generally causes fatiguing. There are also ear resonances around that area but won't get into that.
If it isn't accentuating the "sssh" sound it's probably only a treble peak. 9kHz is iffy but generally perceived as lower treble.
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Based on what you said, I would have to go with the V-Moda M-100. My second and third choices would involve you getting a good deal so as to meet your budget... and they would be the Sennheiser Momentum and Sennheiser Amperior, respectively. Also, TwinQY should be in here any moment now to tell you all about the UE6000 (which I have not heard, but is reputed to be very good for your needs).
It's (the UEs that is) rather balanced and warmed over (in a good way). More along the lines of the Momentum but more bite and less darkness within the presentation.
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Hi folks,
my desktop setup is Bifrost -> Lyr -> HE500
I like this setup for most applications but sometimes I need isolation. I was wondering if there are any high impedance low sensitivity IEMs around for me to use with the Lyr.
I own Westone4 and Shure SE535, but they are both too sensitive and there is a lot of noise floor when attached to Lyr.
please let me know
As mentioned by Warren., add some resistance with an impedance adapter or otherwise. The W4 Appreciation thread goes into enough detail in regards to this.
With 120Ohm loaded I can usually run the W4 off my bedside speaker taps (a great deal more powerful and noisy than the Lyr) no problem. Absolutely pitch black background.
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The cord on my old sennheiser PMX 200s broke and my attempt at repair resulted in unbearable sound quality. This is what I'm ideally looking for in new headphones:
- Ideal for exercise and outside work. The less I have to worry about them, the better.
- Behind-the-neck design. I'm skeptical of in-ear types because my experience with those is that they always get yanked out--especially when I'm working (I'm out of the office now, so I'm talking outside, manual labor), but I'm open to "work-arounds" for this issue (not so sure that a simple clip will solve the problem).
- Closed-construction
- Wired and No batteries
- Some way to block out disruption caused by the wind
I'm only looking for decent sound, so I'm not interested in anything ultra pricey (I'd like to keep it below $100). And I'm not sure if this info is helpful, but I mostly just listen to audiobooks and
deep house.
Usually people don't go for this, which is quite odd, but IEMs are really supposed to be worn behind the neck and over the ears - they see it done on stage and yet no one follows suit. I can tell you that when I used to perform, and someone worn their monitors straight down....oh boy. It's also fairly practical for everyday usage - more of a habitual thing for me nowadays. Also, don't forget to pull up the cable cinch to the back of your neck. Usually when you have a deep enough seal there'd be little chances of them actually getting pulled out without quite a bit of effort. Not to mention they destroy most non-in-ears in terms of isolation by a fair bit.
Now that I've (hopefully) sold you on IEMs (it's fine if we haven't though) - will have to mention that, while genres are helpful, it'd probably be easier for us to specify something if you go into a bit more detail regarding sound preferences, signature preferences, any particular set of characteristics you would take priority in hearing while listening to said genres. It isn't really that hard to find decent sound so why not to go the extra mile.
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I'm looking to buy a new set of in-ear headphones after my last purchase of the XE200 pro which just now broke (and I also hated the J-cord) and the other pair from Xears TM4 which broke very early on.
I've been looking at 3 in particular and wonder if I can get anyone's advice on them or other possibilities in the $50 range:
VSonic VC02
Astrotec AM-800
Astrotec AM-900.
Not having heard the Astrotec, but anything you might want to specify in terms of fit or sound? Preferences in terms of signature, or any particular characteristics you might take priority in hearing while listening to music, would be immensely helpful for us as it does help narrow alternatives down much easier.
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Hello everyone! I'm pretty new to this field and hold little to none experiences or knowledge.
Well, for now, I'm using a 1 to 2 years old xba 1 and wish to have an upgrade over it since it's cord is barely connected (thanks to my playful cat, but it still manage to provide full sound experience for few months and still doing fine.) and overally my ears started to become more and more picky. I love xba 1, but I think it's time for it to have a rest.
Here is some information that I could provide. I ain't sure which of them are useful or not but, I'll just try.
Music player :
Android phone (Sony Xperia Miro) with ttpod music player apps
Type of music / songs I listened :
Fully instrumental, chanting, environmental, ambient
Genre of music / songs :
Post-Rock, soft, tranquil, eerie, nature, a tiny bit of rock and pop
Sample of music :
Stella by Kashiwa Daisuke
Kioku from Yosuga no Sora anime OST
Hope of Dawn from .hack//G.U. OST
Personally, I did a little "research" and I have Xba 40 in mind. So...is it alright to upgrade to that version with all of the information I provided or there's other alternatives which could be considered within the same price range?
Thanks!
As mentioned from the reply for the quote above yours, while genres are helpful, ultimately we value different presentations of said genres -
Preferences in terms of signature, or any particular characteristics you might take priority in hearing while listening to music, would be immensely helpful for us as it does help narrow alternatives down much easier
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Well, there's the S400 (haven't heard it BTW) that can ship immediately and save you a few bucks. Of course, there's always the K81DJ/K518LE option from before (just remember that it's not for large heads). Any last minute suggestions TwinQY?
I got nothing - if it ain't the LEs or the Q460 (both of which I love and think are pretty much perfect for his usage), maybe the Downtowns. Otherwise...
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Hi Guys
I've had a pair of Hippo VB for a long time now and still highly regard them for their bass thump, which I always have the bassiest plate set.
I do however want to try the next level of IEM, hoping I can retain the bass of my Hippo VB but enhance clarity across the spectrum?
Can you guys help?
Budget: Approx £200
DAP: Sansa Clip+
Source: 320 bitrate MP3
Genre: Techno / house
I've read a little on the Sennheiser IE80 on this site but cannot find a direct comparison with the Hippo VB. Likewise, Monster Turbines and I think Atrios? All appear to be worthy - but I await everyones input.
I'm cautious of spending £200 and being disappointed when comparing to my beloved Hippo....so theres always the option of keeping them and not 'upgrading'
Still gotta stick with my original reply on the original thread -
The IE80s can get similarly bassy to the VBs - although I wasn't actually aware of people going on up to the max bass plates, kudos - but the presentation is more like the Hippos in that there's more of a focus on body and warmth, so clarity isn't exactly emphasized further. They are more proficient so in the long run you are going to get a tad bit more clarity. Though I would look more towards the Atrios if you do want an extra push in terms of perceived clarity, out of the lot.
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I'm also looking for new IEMs in this price range. I have been looking at the W4R, UE900s, and SE535s, but I am open to suggestions. My wife recently permanently "borrowed" my SE215's, so it gave me an excuse to upgrade my portable headphones. I listen to almost every genre, but more commonly my listening will focus on country, pop, rock, alternative, and acoustic renditions. I am looking for isolation, instrument separation and definition, and I would like to hear the bass and not be disappointed, but not overwhelmed at the same time. Would you also recommend the UE900s in this case? Or something else?
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Hey joseph, TwinQY is on a well-deserved vacation. While I haven't heard any of the IEMs above, my understanding is that TwinQY repeatedly suggests the UE900 as he believes it to be an excellent all-rounder. I also believe that he'd praise it's detail and separation. Beyond that, I'm not much help. Maybe PM him if it's urgent and you're in a rush?
Yes I was, sorry about that. Definitely if those are being prioritized the UE900s would win out due to the more clear-cut presentation - if only notes weren't so rounded and slow(er) on the latter two I'd recommend them more, as this question comes up quite often and a lot of the criteria gets to be very similar in the end. Bass isn't that emphasized relatively, in fact it's downright linear when the pinhole fills.
Hi, this is my first post here, and after lurking around for some time, would like to seek some opinions
well I listen to a wide range of music, rock, metal, kpop, ballads; etc. I am also interested in doing some monitoring/mixing/dj-ing. So I did some researched and discovered these iems, um3x, um2 & the earsonics sm3v2. What would be a good recommendation? I do not use an amp currently btw, but may consider getting one XD I tried searching around but find nothing much on the earsonics's comparisons with the westones :/ if there are other recommendations, I am all for ears! (bad pun) My budget is ard 600 SGD. Or should I look at headphones with this budget? Many thanks! (I like the fit of the westones & shures shells, but open to other types too)
As mentioned from several of the reply for the quote above yours, while genres are helpful, ultimately we value different presentations of said genres -
Preferences in terms of signature, or any particular characteristics you might take priority in hearing while listening to music, would be immensely helpful for us as it does help narrow alternatives down much easier
You also needn't restrict yourself to the old-guard choices of Westone and Earsonic just because they've been targetting/pigeonholed into the role of "monitoring". It really depends on what you prioritize while doing said mixes. Usually I EQ anything I monitor with like crazy so it depends on what you need these to do.
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