Originally Posted by
Tablix
There is no win situation, or there would only be one choice, so lets actually offer direct options for the OP based on PERSONAL ownership and not random opinions to back up your own individual point of view.
Originally Posted by
cel4145
I would agree. The problem seems to be that we have the active
fanboys who have limited experience with speakers
proclaiming that they are always superior, and those with a wide range of speaker experience saying that it really depends on the speakers/setup. Given the tons of speaker options available, which seems more likely? LOL
- Hence the hyperbole in my response to point out the flaw in his declarations. They
aren't always better as 'authoritatively' stated by Dumsfeld -- at least not in one professional environment. And yes, I really do trust the engineers at Abbey Road more than Dumsfeld. Yet, I do understand the possibility exists that unlimited budget may result in a different buying decision. Again, hyperbole...to drive a point home and put the 'that's the way it is' argument in perspective.
- In reality, I might even buy the argument that, at the lower to middle end of the spectrum, you could have better luck finding higher quality in individual components by choosing high-value performers from each equipment category with a little research, listening, and patience to get a good deal.
- BTW, I have no issues whatsoever with posts on either side of this discussion. I always come down on the side of helping the OP research alternatives based on others opinions (including real experts -- Tyll, ljokerl, etc.) and recommending they then listen for themselves to choose the product that satisfies their unique need/preferences.
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The arguing gets a little tedious and achieves nothing, maybe better to answer the OP and ignore the rest as its all opinionated BS that cant be proven at the end of the day. I really hate being quoted and argued with as it feels like my opinion is no longer wanted on an open forum. The more it happens the less likely I am or others are to get involved in debate. Not good for a community driven website IMO.
- Yep...would be great! The problem is that some folks proclaim themselves as 'Experts' and then people that may be new to the hobby might make decisions based on the 'perceived power' of the 'Expert's' declarations; spending their hard-earned $$$ differently than they would have if there had been a reasonable discussion of alternatives.
- Honestly, I've made similar arguments in the never-ending 'Hate on BEATS' threads that periodically show up on Head-Fi. FWIW, I don't own any BEATS products; opting for DT770s and Atrio IEMs for my 'basshead' listening. That said, I don't get the whole 'you're stupid/ignorant if you don't agree with me' schtick! It 'gets a little tedious' to hear people tell others that they're listening preferences are 'inferior'.
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Originally Posted by
Tablix
WAY off topic with talk of headphones, abbey road studio's and comparing things outside the original budget.
- Thanks, I had no idea.
But the 'talk of headphones' demonstrates the point (albeit subtle) that even Mastering Studios at the highest level don't always purchase the most expensive product but choose that they feel is the best one for their application -- which is definitely something worth bearing in mind as it relates to any audio purchase.