Beyerdynamic Xelento!

Dec 17, 2022 at 1:40 PM Post #2,596 of 3,049
I own BTR7, Go Blu, Qudelix, ES100MKII ... and waiting next monday for a shaling UP4 2022 :
BTR7 => very nice sound, very poor battery playing time (5 to 6 hours with Xelento)
Go BLu => 3 of these were killed in 15 months due to unacceptable USB-C power protection with many chargers (probably almost no protection with high speed chargers) .. sound is very good too and playing time probably the best for such weight and power with 10 to 12hours
Qudelix => no so bad sound quality, with 8 to 9 hours playing time with Xelento 1 (I using this these last weeks)
ES100MKII => the weakest of all of these .. not really impressive with the Xelento
I will see very soon with the Shanling UP4 2022 .. but I have no big expectations with this one too concerning battery playing time..
I have also been using my Qudelix with both my Xelento and TZ700 and it seems to be working well with both. It has proven to be the most reliable Bluetooth device I have owned as well as having a superb app. I quickly returned the Go Blue due very poor reception range.
 
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Dec 17, 2022 at 2:06 PM Post #2,597 of 3,049
Thanks for the suggestions, I've been looking at the iFi Go Blu, Quedelix 5K and the FiiO BTRs so good info.

I already own a Mojo so a Poly is also an option, I don't believe it supports any of the higher res BT codecs but using an SD card and phone to control it could bypass BT entirely and keep everything lossless.
 
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Dec 17, 2022 at 9:47 PM Post #2,598 of 3,049
Got the 2nd gen on a semi-blind buy since I had the OG Xelento and while I thought the OG was an ergonomic treat, I found its treble to be peaky at times and not agreeable with me. I must say that the 2nd gen is a splendid improvement all around. The passive isolation is surprisingly well above average and surpasses my Campfire CIEMs. The new silicone ear tips provide a better fit and seal this time as I didn't have consistent success with the OG tips and resorted to third party options. This time around I got a perfect fit with the second pair I tried. And much like the OG, the 2nd gen practically floats in your ear and sits flush. This is probably one of the only high-end monitors with which you can actually lie in bed (and they have swayed me to sleep many times). I get minor driver flex, but have found that pulling your ear back while inserting helps to greatly reduce and practically eliminate it.

The 2nd gen is a wonderfully smooth listen with what I would have to describe as a buttery timbre. The bass is deceptively guttural and hard-hitting, completely at odds with the shell size. The sub-bass reaches deeper and texture is notably better, and at times produces a physical rumble in some passages that I seriously do not expect from an IEM. In fact, I don't often get it from most over-ears. It has a thicker, fuller, and intimate kind of bass that focuses on enveloping you in a lavishly warm sea of low-end without drowning you, of course. Despite these qualities, bass is competently procured without a sense of congestion or suffocation.

The midrange follows suit with being almost honey-like. That buttery effect is evident here as well, as if everything has a subtle smoothing glaze over it which is nice on the ears. Vocals are thick and gooey with the perfect level of reservation balanced out with the more intimate presentation. The tuning is south of neutral here making it much more forgiving with many genres and more palatable in general, particularly for on-the-go use. Upper midrange lacks the occasional harshness of the OG, yet another welcome change.

Given the relaxed mids, I can't quite say this is v-shaped because the treble is likewise smooth, while retaining pleasant energy and detail. Beyer definitely tamed the peaks here and I welcome it dearly. The treble presentation seems tailor-made for long listening sessions, free of excessive shimmer or glare, and with such a lusciously soft and nimble quality. I found it especially beneficial in electronic music. There is definite roll-off and it contributes to creating an almost romantic atmosphere and maintaining the theme of prolonged listening. I quite enjoy it.

I mentioned that the staging is on the intimate side, however the imaging and depth are excellent, again unbefitting of the ear piece's size. I can often get fooled into believing that I'm wearing an over-ear with the Xelento, and the remarkably physical bass delivery aids in that. All in all, this is a portable easy-listening package at its finest with a form factor that I can't appreciate enough. I'm consistently finding that single driver monitors are much more enjoyable, and superior in terms of musical purity. Beyer unequivocally achieved a cozy sound here.

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Dec 19, 2022 at 11:14 AM Post #2,601 of 3,049
I think Passion for Sound mentioned the IE600 in his YouTube Xelento review.

 
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Dec 19, 2022 at 2:19 PM Post #2,603 of 3,049
Got the 2nd gen on a semi-blind buy since I had the OG Xelento and while I thought the OG was an ergonomic treat, I found its treble to be peaky at times and not agreeable with me. I must say that the 2nd gen is a splendid improvement all around. The passive isolation is surprisingly well above average and surpasses my Campfire CIEMs. The new silicone ear tips provide a better fit and seal this time as I didn't have consistent success with the OG tips and resorted to third party options. This time around I got a perfect fit with the second pair I tried. And much like the OG, the 2nd gen practically floats in your ear and sits flush. This is probably one of the only high-end monitors with which you can actually lie in bed (and they have swayed me to sleep many times). I get minor driver flex, but have found that pulling your ear back while inserting helps to greatly reduce and practically eliminate it.

The 2nd gen is a wonderfully smooth listen with what I would have to describe as a buttery timbre. The bass is deceptively guttural and hard-hitting, completely at odds with the shell size. The sub-bass reaches deeper and texture is notably better, and at times produces a physical rumble in some passages that I seriously do not expect from an IEM. In fact, I don't often get it from most over-ears. It has a thicker, fuller, and intimate kind of bass that focuses on enveloping you in a lavishly warm sea of low-end without drowning you, of course. Despite these qualities, bass is competently procured without a sense of congestion or suffocation.

The midrange follows suit with being almost honey-like. That buttery effect is evident here as well, as if everything has a subtle smoothing glaze over it which is nice on the ears. Vocals are thick and gooey with the perfect level of reservation balanced out with the more intimate presentation. The tuning is south of neutral here making it much more forgiving with many genres and more palatable in general, particularly for on-the-go use. Upper midrange lacks the occasional harshness of the OG, yet another welcome change.

Given the relaxed mids, I can't quite say this is v-shaped because the treble is likewise smooth, while retaining pleasant energy and detail. Beyer definitely tamed the peaks here and I welcome it dearly. The treble presentation seems tailor-made for long listening sessions, free of excessive shimmer or glare, and with such a lusciously soft and nimble quality. I found it especially beneficial in electronic music. There is definite roll-off and it contributes to creating an almost romantic atmosphere and maintaining the theme of prolonged listening. I quite enjoy it.

I mentioned that the staging is on the intimate side, however the imaging and depth are excellent, again unbefitting of the ear piece's size. I can often get fooled into believing that I'm wearing an over-ear with the Xelento, and the remarkably physical bass delivery aids in that. All in all, this is a portable easy-listening package at its finest with a form factor that I can't appreciate enough. I'm consistently finding that single driver monitors are much more enjoyable, and superior in terms of musical purity. Beyer unequivocally achieved a cozy sound here.

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Great impressions, fully agree with how you are hearing them - I’m travelling today and been listening for hours, utterly fantastic… and so incredibly comfortable, love them. The imaging is really mind blowing.
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 2:48 PM Post #2,604 of 3,049
I got a set of X2s arriving tomorrow that I bought when it began to look like the CFA Supermoon I bought a while back were lost en route. Typically, today I get good news they are going to be with me soon and it's too late for me to cancel the X2 order.

I am interested to hear the X2s but all I have read about the Supermoon suggests it is going to eclipse the X2. Unlikely I know, but has anyone heard each to be able to provide a comparison? If the X2 are no go then I would prefer not to open their box and return, if however they are superb then I am open to trying them out.
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 5:52 PM Post #2,607 of 3,049
Can you elaborate a little bit?
Just from memory so take it with a grain of salt.
The ie600 are very very good- well tuned, great detail, good bass. Definitely the best tuned Sennheiser iems to date. Could it be an end game for someone who doesnt want to pay 1000+? Not for me but quite close. I would pick the Dunu SA6 Ultra instead.
IE900 are mediocre for me. They have very good detail but the tuning makes them unusable. The mids are subdued and not natural. Bit too small soundstage. The price they ask for it is a joke.
Xelentos 2 have detail, quite good mids (at least not withdrawn too much), great separation and staging. Also the bass is great. They are better allrounders, at least for me. They are also safer in tuning in comparison to the ie600 because of smoother trebles.
But im spoiled by the Monarchs Mk2 which are leaques above every iem mentioned above (a real TOTL). But if i had to choose just one iem to add to my collection which i would like to listen to in rare ocasions, it would be definitely the Xelentos 2. They are great iem before you go to bed- relaxed but detailed and full sounding.
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 7:33 PM Post #2,608 of 3,049
I got a set of X2s arriving tomorrow that I bought when it began to look like the CFA Supermoon I bought a while back were lost en route. Typically, today I get good news they are going to be with me soon and it's too late for me to cancel the X2 order.

I am interested to hear the X2s but all I have read about the Supermoon suggests it is going to eclipse the X2. Unlikely I know, but has anyone heard each to be able to provide a comparison? If the X2 are no go then I would prefer not to open their box and return, if however they are superb then I am open to trying them out.
They're both quite different primarily in terms of timbre and staging. Xelento is buttery and intimate. Supermoon is velvety and wide. Xelento definitely hits and rumbles harder, while Supermoon has greater bass resolution and extension. Supermoon is more resolving while Xelento is richer in tonality. Xelento is overall warm and smooth, while Supermoon is neutral and delicate with a bass boost.
They both exist in the camp of being a soothing listen, easy on the ears, with extra warmth from elevated bass, though Supermoon has more energy in the treble.
Supermoon provides an expansive soundscape with excellent technicalities, and Xelento provides a life-like comforting sound with impressive dyamics.
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 1:41 PM Post #2,609 of 3,049
Thanks for the responses. I got to listen to the Xelento 2s for an hour today and am initially impressed. I pair them with a SR25 MKII and found the sound to be warm, fun and with good quantity and quality of low end. I tried a little tip rolling but there was not too much difference I could tell between the Spinfits and Final Type E, the latter of which I am using just now without issue.
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 2:16 PM Post #2,610 of 3,049
Thanks for the responses. I got to listen to the Xelento 2s for an hour today and am initially impressed. I pair them with a SR25 MKII and found the sound to be warm, fun and with good quantity and quality of low end. I tried a little tip rolling but there was not too much difference I could tell between the Spinfits and Final Type E, the latter of which I am using just now without issue.
Did you try the stock silicone tips? I tried spinfits and final tips as well, but had better comfort and seal with the stock tips.
 

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