monoboy
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Are the dt 1770 better then HD800? I'm so torn between what to get!
Are the dt 1770 better then HD800? I'm so torn between what to get!
The beyer treble of T90 brought down. The new beyer sound- more balanced now in mids, bass and treble.
Are the dt 1770 better then HD800? I'm so torn between what to get!
Have you heard them? Nothing in that announcement gave us much idea of what the sound signature will be, but they're open back and therefore better to compare with the DT-1990 than the 1770
A couple hours with 1770 and I can't get them off fast enough. Elear I can go a few hours and T1 all day longWhat's the comfort level for these cans after 4-6 hours of listening time? Do your ears get sweaty, ears hurt from clamping force, etc.?
What's the comfort level for these cans after 4-6 hours of listening time? Do your ears get sweaty, ears hurt from clamping force, etc.?
I own the 1770 and Focal Elear, never heard the HD800. The 1770 and Elear are quite different. For starters, being closed, 1770 is more bass strong. To me they possess a more fleshed out midrange too. That said the Elear is ultra dynamic & expressive. They can do justice to any genre, where as the 1770, for me at least, does well with EDM style and ok with everything else. From what the "experts" are claiming, the Elear is a better bargain than the HD800. YMMV.
Yes, it does give the idea in no unequivocal terms:
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"An additional fabric in front of the multilayer compound calotte reduces high-frequency resonances. The acoustic transducers are dampened on the rear to ensure an even more balanced frequency response in the mids. And a new acoustically effective ear pad filling material increases bass precision. All in all, this adds up to a warm, stress-free sound with fascinating spaciousness – as intoxicating as in a live concert."
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It means, a conscious effort has been made by them to take the old T90's much-feared razor sharp treble.
My point is that we only have Beyer's word for it. Back in 2012 they described the T90 as "neutral", so I always take PR blurb with a grain of salt until someone actually hears them and can report, for example, which "high frequency resonances" have been damped and if that treble spike has indeed been tamed.
One good thing on the side, though, is the fact that, for those who love the original sharp treble of T90, this might be last chance and a cheaper time to buy the last units available for sale.
If I am to be truthful, imo, the 1770 may be better. Keep in mind they are headphones. We aren't sitting in a 3 dimensional space, surrounded by sound waves coming at us front and center. Soundstaging is hugely dependent on the recording techniques used, the actual venue and upstream equipment too. In this regard, phones can only do so much. From what I hear though, the hd800 do a fairly good job recreating more accurate staging. The 1770 and Elear are both fines cans. Hope this helps.How does the soundstage compared with those two? A lot of comments say the Elears have a relatively small soundstage (small for the price range or small for open-backed I don't know). The 1770 do have a fairly large soundstage for closed headphones IMO, although they still definitely sound "closed".