migo
500+ Head-Fier
Hi, i've listened to those two tracks on Tidal, but can't hear clipping, Can you provide me exact time frame where do you experience it?
Beyerdynamic Amiron Wireless
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hmscott
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Yes, UNIX is the main OS I use in my professional work as dozens of UNIX-a-like's since 1978Hi @hmscottI see you are enjoying yours AWC!
Thank you for your Tidal PL tips I'll play it later today
Is this the plug-in you were referring to? Or? Link?
PulseAudio Plugin Allows For Better Bluetooth Audio Quality On Linux
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Better-Bluetooth-Linux-Audio
Here is the repository mentioned in that posting, in case that disappears:
https://github.com/EHfive/pulseaudio-modules-bt
On Windows 10 AFAIK today there is still no native support for aptX HD or aptX LL, so we still need something like the Avantree DG60 to provide the support for aptX HD and aptX LL:
Bluetooth Audio Quality & aptX on Windows 10
https://helgeklein.com/blog/2019/01/bluetooth-audio-quality-aptx-windows-10/
And, I've received my DT770 Silver Velour pads, for now I am going to continue enjoying the stock pads, it's still early days...
beyerdynamic EDT 770 V ear pad set velour silver-grey for DT 770 PRO series
https://www.ebay.com/itm/beyerdynam...r-grey-for-DT-770-PRO-series-and/113690554888
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I don't have any clipping - the Amiron Wireless AMP creates solid crisp audio that can be increased well past my personal comfort level, and the bass never sags or distorts on any Bass I've tried so far. I actually like the AptX well enough to run wireless most of the time.
That may change when a custom cable I hope to receive around the first week of October arrives. I didn't go nutz on the cable but I'm working on configuring it well enough to make it notably better than the stock cable - I hope - at least it will be longer and less thin.
The Hart cable looks nice, but that XLR connector "patch" lump in the length of the cable matching the XLR's to make the ends interchangeable is a bit much for me, but the combined price isn't bad, here's the end that gives 3.5mm on the other side linking up the HC-1 XLR:
https://hartaudiocables.com/collections/interconnects/products/ic-2-3-5mm-trs
I am really looking for something a bit like this build quality I found for my Sennheiser HD598cs:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0772SQ413
Or even something like this I use on my IEM's with a 3.5mm to the earphone cup of the Amiron Wireless instead of the C-Pin - and of course no Y split needed either - I do like that braided / woven 16 core cable as the wires for a cable:
https://www.amazon.com/Detachable-Upgrade-Earphone-Replacement-Standard/dp/B07TW5JQT7
Right now I'm settling on 22/24/26 awg Teflon sheathed wire 8 "cores" - 4 OCC copper and 4 OCC copper Silver plated - to get the combined effect of the best characteristics of those headphone wires. I'll report back on how that sounds and as it all works out I'll let you know who built it.
Any suggestions for similar pre-built headphone cable for the Amiron Wireless?
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migo
500+ Head-Fier
Hi, yes in this article is link to the repository with needed files/sources. I'm using it on Arch Linux without any problems, AptX HD and LL booth works flawless. For Win I cant really say, Linux is may daily driver for years now.
hmscott
1000+ Head-Fier
Thank you migo
Perhaps I'll repurpose this 3700x / B450 build for Linux when I build the Zen 3 replacement later this year.
Being a long time gamer I've got too much invested in games for PC to drop Windows completely.
And, after 42 years of 99.99% UNIX at work, it's nice to kick off my UNIX boots and boot up into any other OS but UNIX during my "free" time.
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migo
500+ Head-Fier
That would be a very nice Linux system!Thank you migo
Perhaps I'll repurpose this 3700x / B450 build for Linux when I build the Zen 3 replacement later this year.
Being a long time gamer I've got too much invested in games for PC to drop Windows completely.
And, after 42 years of 99.99% UNIX at work, it's nice to kick off my UNIX boots and boot up into any other OS but UNIX during my "free" time.
D I'm looking at UX system at work too, but only to terminal windows most of time and gnome desktop is welcome change too But for gaming there is Win better choice.CTR640
Headphoneus Supremus
Nah, if looks, the Amiron wins by sexiness.Very hard duel here...
migo
500+ Head-Fier
Yeah!
Anandas are HUGE on the head!
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hmscott
1000+ Head-Fier
Well guys, I'm unhappy to report I've packed up my Amiron Wireless Copper headphone to return to Amazon tomorrow.
I'm hoping it's only my particular unit that is doing this as I've not heard anyone else report this particular issue, but it's developed audio connection dropout's - micro / fractional - just for a split second sound drops and then immediately restarts - while I am sitting right next to the BT source.
It happened a couple of times early on and then I didn't notice it again until a couple of weeks ago and it's been getting worse - to the point I have come to the end of my return period and had to decide whether to keep them with the glitch or return them and get another pair down the road.
I bought a Avantree DG60 with BT5.0 to see if that would fix the problem - and give me aptx-hd, but no go - it's still doing the audio drop out's - and the DG60 range with the Amiron's is about the same as my B450 motherboard built-in BT 4.2.
I'm not sure what to go to next. I'm thinking about the Amiron Home, T1, T5, but I'll probably do some more thinking about it before acting.
I've already got a couple of new headphone acquisitions in play so it will take some time to work with those first. I'll post about those later elsewhere.
Has anyone else had audio dropout's with their Amiron Wireless headphones?
I'm hoping it's only my particular unit that is doing this as I've not heard anyone else report this particular issue, but it's developed audio connection dropout's - micro / fractional - just for a split second sound drops and then immediately restarts - while I am sitting right next to the BT source.
It happened a couple of times early on and then I didn't notice it again until a couple of weeks ago and it's been getting worse - to the point I have come to the end of my return period and had to decide whether to keep them with the glitch or return them and get another pair down the road.
I bought a Avantree DG60 with BT5.0 to see if that would fix the problem - and give me aptx-hd, but no go - it's still doing the audio drop out's - and the DG60 range with the Amiron's is about the same as my B450 motherboard built-in BT 4.2.
I'm not sure what to go to next. I'm thinking about the Amiron Home, T1, T5, but I'll probably do some more thinking about it before acting.
I've already got a couple of new headphone acquisitions in play so it will take some time to work with those first. I'll post about those later elsewhere.
Has anyone else had audio dropout's with their Amiron Wireless headphones?
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CTR640
Headphoneus Supremus
That's very sad to hear that! Is it not because of the firmware? I haven't had dropouts. I did had lagging/micro's when connected it to my PSVita but that's because the PSVita had to fully restart the BT module and after like 5 seconds, no more lagging and or micro's. However, I'm more of a wired guy and want to preserve the battery so I'll use the BT when I need the convenience. I would return and get another pair down the road.
I have the original, non-copper version, and I've not had that problem connected to my iPhone XS -- I don't think ever, but if it ever did happen, it literally would have been so rare I can't remember it. You are almost certainly doing the right thing to return them.
How many different devices did you try pairing them to? Did you have this issue on all devices? Were any of the other devices you had them paired to around when you had these dropouts, i.e., is it possible that the cutouts were from competing devices "talking" to the cans?
hmscott
1000+ Head-Fier
Almost certainly some level of interference was the cause, as I have many BT devices active around me. Some TWS's also have had problems around me, but I've found enough that reject the interference well and are usable, and I needed the Amiron's to be as robust as I travel around into unknown "fields" of BT devices.
I had been ignoring it, hoping it wouldn't bother me, but it does enough that I needed to try to fix it and tried various devices to pair with and things would seem to be going along well and then it would happen again - just a brief drop out of audio - and most of the time it would recover. I think I only had to power off / on again a few times over the month or so I had them.
Amazon Prime let me extend the return period a couple of times, and in the end Amazon Prime returns now include a UPS pickup option - they come to your door with a shipping sticker - no printing required - and take it away to Amazon. I've got the Amiron Wireless and the DG60 boxed up ready and waiting at the door for tomorrow's pickup.
I'm half hoping Beyerdynamic comes out with a new wireless headphone in that price range with new BT hardware that is that much better that it will easily reject BT signals around me and be more reliable. The other half of me wants to order another Amiron Wireless headphone to see if it was just that unit that had the problem.
For now I'll spend time with other new headphones and IEM's for a while, and avoid thinking about it
Yes, I had a similar issue where a timeout would happen and I'd need to reset the Amiron - power off / on - to get it to listen to the connection from a device, but those kind of things are BT normal limitations.
Speaking of wired, do you think I'd like the Amiron Home in place of the Amiron Wireless? I have DAP's I can use to provide the wireless aspect. In fact before the Amiron Wireless I had given up on headphones with built-in BT.
Or, should I consider the DT1990? Priced around the same. I don't really want to spend $1000+ on headphones, $500-$600 (+-) is enough for me to invest in an exceptional headphone.
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CTR640
Headphoneus Supremus
Darn! That's not good. Is BT important? The AWC is not an usual headphone that you see everyday and I would get another pair.Almost certainly some level of interference was the cause, as I have many BT devices active around me. Some TWS's also have had problems around me, but I've found enough that reject the interference well and are usable, and I needed the Amiron's to be as robust as I travel around into unknown "fields" of BT devices.
I had been ignoring it, hoping it wouldn't bother me, but it does enough that I needed to try to fix it and tried various devices to pair with and things would seem to be going along well and then it would happen again - just a brief drop out of audio - and most of the time it would recover. I think I only had to power off / on again a few times over the month or so I had them.
Amazon Prime let me extend the return period a couple of times, and in the end Amazon Prime returns now include a UPS pickup option - they come to your door with a shipping sticker - no printing required - and take it away to Amazon. I've got the Amiron Wireless and the DG60 boxed up ready and waiting at the door for tomorrow's pickup.
I'm half hoping Beyerdynamic comes out with a new wireless headphone in that price range with new BT hardware that is that much better that it will easily reject BT signals around me and be more reliable. The other half of me wants to order another Amiron Wireless headphone to see if it was just that unit that had the problem.
I'll spend time with other new headphones and IEM's for a while, and avoid thinking about it
What about BT adapter or BT receiver of whatever that device is called? Like Fiio BTR series, Shanling and EarStudio ES?
hmscott
1000+ Head-Fier
Yes, I've got a BTR5 / BTR3k / M15 all of which I can use with wired headphones and connect via BT to a source, and that's what I've been doing for a while. Those devices are why I gave up on getting headphones with BT onboard as their BT connectivity stability is often a problem.
I do have Audio-Technica ATH-ANC900BT and Beats Wireless Studio 3's which both have great BT stability and distance coverage, but they are not "audiophile" quality sound. I also had a Sony WH1000XM3, but after a few weeks it's ANC started "whistling" - I had to back off the ANC "strength" two notches to stop the noise, and that reduced the effectiveness of the ANC so I returned those (long ago). I'm not sure I want to try the Sony WH1000XM4's until they get a few firmware rev's into making it final.
I'm not in any rush to repeat the Amiron Wireless - I've got a Beyerdynamic DT990 600 ohm Chrome Special Edition arriving this week to enjoy - and I can enjoy it "wirelessly" with the BTR5 / BTR3k / M15 if needed for now..
Yes, I realize 600 ohm is gonna be a tough load on the BTR5 / BTR3k - even on the M15 3.5mm - so I'm going to get it re-wired for balanced removeable cable use on 4.4mm.
But at some point I'll likely get another Amiron Wireless, Amiron Home - or whatever BD has in mind for that model's upgrade path.
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CTR640
Headphoneus Supremus
@hmscott
From the sounds of it, it looks like wired will stay superior. BT is asking for trouble some day.
So the best thing is to keep the AWC or get another pair if they are returned and stick to BT adapter and or wired if BT is not needed.
When Netflix had to reduce their capacity, I noticed the sound was lagging behind, like 0.5 seconds when I used the AWC wireless.
I tried the XM3 and holy crap, the bass is muddy, not fun at all and everything sounded congested. It sounded like poop hitting the wall.
From the reviews on the XM4, it's not any better and you'd be wasting money on it.
From the sounds of it, it looks like wired will stay superior. BT is asking for trouble some day.
So the best thing is to keep the AWC or get another pair if they are returned and stick to BT adapter and or wired if BT is not needed.
When Netflix had to reduce their capacity, I noticed the sound was lagging behind, like 0.5 seconds when I used the AWC wireless.
I tried the XM3 and holy crap, the bass is muddy, not fun at all and everything sounded congested. It sounded like poop hitting the wall.
From the reviews on the XM4, it's not any better and you'd be wasting money on it.
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