[aisalen]

Hi, im about to buy either dt1990 or amiron home. I want to buy a headphone that will be a great sidegrade to my HD600. I mostly listen to classical, orchestra, vocal music.
So i wonder between these 2 headphones, which one suit me more ? I heard that Dt1990 has better treble, detail but more aggresive than amiron home, but amiron home is more lush, laid back, better soundstage.

I considered my Amiron Home as an upgrade to my HD600, not as a side grade.

 

[cirodts]

I listen to rock metal with amiron and I have a great time, amiron has all the details that a warm headphone is not true, but it does not have built-in mids, I simply am not forward.

 

[cirodts]

I tried the hd600, the amiron is a sure improvement

 

[yeboyi]

Hi, im about to buy either dt1990 or amiron home. I want to buy a headphone that will be a great sidegrade to my HD600. I mostly listen to classical, orchestra, vocal music.
So i wonder between these 2 headphones, which one suit me more ? I heard that Dt1990 has better treble, detail but more aggresive than amiron home, but amiron home is more lush, laid back, better soundstage.

Imo they are more like upgrade over HD600.

 

[yeboyi]

Looking back over the last few pages, I saw a couple people asking me about the differences in sound between the Amiron and the DT1990, since I own both. Without trying to make this too long, I can give a bit of a comparison here. Here is a quick run down of these two headphones.

In terms of sub bass, both headphones are about equal. With the mid bass, the Amiron is more elevated. When using the DT1990 with the analytical pads, it does not have any mid bass bump at all. It is rather flat across the entire bass range up to the lower mids. With the balanced pads, there is certainly a hump there. I am not a fan of a mid bass hump on a headphone. I really dislike when mid bass bleeds into the mids on a headphone. I will always EQ this down on a headphone which has it with stock tuning. Even when comparing with the balanced pads though, the Amiron mid bass is still higher and broader in its elevation than the 1990. It bleeds into the lower mids more. Overall, the DT1990 has a faster, tighter, and more engaging bass. It has fast decay in the lower bass frequencies, and is not boomy at all. Both headphones need a mid bass reduction to sound correct though (if using the balanced pads on the 1990). With the analytical pads, the mid bass on the 1990 is completely flat. The bass on the Amiron is warmer and softer across the range. It has a bit of a loose character to its presentation. Keep in mine I am comparing the Amiron against the 1990 with the balanced pads though.

With the mids, the Amiron is more layed back. It is recessed in the mids, partially from that heavy mid bass hump that bleeds in. The Amiron is recessed from 1kHz to 5kHz. Vocals are layed back, and not harsh at all. All of the detail is there. Instrument location is correct. Soundstage is vast, and imaging is excellent. The Amiron offers all kinds of details in the music that most other warm headphones just do not produce. It really is a unique headphone. With the mids being recessed though, there is a sense of distance between you and instruments, as well as the vocals. Nothing in the music is up front at all. The Amiron is not designed to offer a dynamic and energetic listening experience. It is all about sitting back with a quality beverage and enjoying a relaxing listen with the music of your choice.

With the DT1990, the mids are a tiny bit recessed, but only just slightly. Instruments are more defined and up front. Vocals are not layed back. They are right in the center of your head. Imaging is pinpoint, and extremely accurate. Like the Amiron, the DT1990 also reveals all kinds of details in music, but it does so with even more focus. It demands your attention. Soundstage on the DT1990 is slightly less wide than the Amiron. The 1990 is certainly not narrow though. In exchange for it being not quite as vast as the Amiron, it gives you a more focused and realistic presentation. The Amiron is already good at detail retrieval. The 1990 pushes this a full step forward, and nothing in the music is able to hide from you.

Regarding the treble, as we all know, the Amiron is certainly more layed back. It is not a bright headphone at all. The treble response is clean, non-fatiguing, and organic. This is a headphone that you can listen to for hours. In my opinion, it could use a little more extension in the upper treble. It is slightly rolled off in the highest frequencies. This is a headphone that you can easily turn up and get blasting because it just has a relaxing sound signature. I can not imagine anyone claiming this headphone is bright or piercing. If that is the case, the person needs to get their hearing checked.

With the DT1990, the treble is more detailed. It is certainly brighter as well, and not layed back. It is a bit bright between 6-10kHz. As a result though, every detail that is present in music is exposed. Just like the Amiron does, the DT1990 also exposes clicks, distortion, pops, sighs, bangs, echos, grain, and any other defect that is present in recordings. The difference between it and the Amiron in this regard is that the 1990 will not ever leave you guessing if you just heard something. You will immediately say "wow, I have never heard that popping sound there before, or that thumping noise in the last track". From top to bottom in the frequency response of this headphone, the 1990 just hammers you with details.

My genres are hard rock and heavy metal. For this type of music, I think the DT1990 is the better headphone. The reason for this, is because it just attacks the music. It pulls all the detail out of it. Instead of the headphone saying " I am going to let the artist show you what is on the album", the headphone says "hey artist, you sit back, and let me show the listener myself". Guitars are engaging, and have a nice bite to them. Instruments sound layered, and details are pushed forward. It is a real toe tapper of a headphone for heavy styles of music. The thing is though, for anyone who has not heard either headphone, I actually recommend both headphones, unless you have a specific sound you want. If you want a headphone that has pinpoint imaging, is engaging, and has up front detail retrieval, the DT1990 is a great choice. If you want a more relaxing listen, where you want a sound which is reminiscent of listening to vinyl, then the Amiron is a great choice. If you want both of these experiences, then I recommend both headphones.

As a DT 1990 owner i couldn't agree more. You sum up DT 1990 perfectly and looks like Amiron Home is better suited for me. I could use a bit more subbass though but these are openback. I'm guessing lusher, looser nature of it's bass can help with that subbass crave. DT 1990 is like best headphone in the world when you are in the mood but really scare me when i'm not in the mood. I'm avoiding them if i'm tired, if i'm hangover. Can't wait for the Mick Gordon's Doom Eternal OST tidal release. DT 1990 might be the best headphone to listen that album.

 

[hippotas]

I considered my Amiron Home as an upgrade to my HD600, not as a side grade.

So it is worth to keep both headphones ? I like the intimacy of hd600 but i'm not a fan of its soundstage. The depth is great but quite narrow.
I recently have a chance to try moondrop liebesleid (i really love it), and from what i read the dt1990 is quite similar. So for now, i'm leaning toward to this.

 

[aisalen]

So it is worth to keep both headphones ? I like the intimacy of hd600 but i'm not a fan of its soundstage. The depth is great but quite narrow.
I recently have a chance to try moondrop liebesleid (i really love it), and from what i read the dt1990 is quite similar. So for now, i'm leaning toward to this.

For me on HD600, yes for variety and I have DV 336SE to drive them. I almost sell my Jot as I do not like the pairing with the 600, but since I got the Amiron I can live with only Jot and Amiron.

 

[hippotas]

For me on HD600, yes for variety and I have DV 336SE to drive them. I almost sell my Jot as I do not like the pairing with the 600, but since I got the Amiron I can live with only Jot and Amiron.

I like my hd600 for most genres since i mostly listen to vocal, classical. Then i find out that i really hate the smoothness of the mid with some songs. For some reasons, i prefer the dryness, thinness more. In that regard, i think dt1990 is better for me.

 

[supervisor]

great comparisons--can anyone weigh in on how T1.2 compares?

 

[CTR640]

As a DT 1990 owner i couldn't agree more. You sum up DT 1990 perfectly and looks like Amiron Home is better suited for me. I could use a bit more subbass though but these are openback. I'm guessing lusher, looser nature of it's bass can help with that subbass crave. DT 1990 is like best headphone in the world when you are in the mood but really scare me when i'm not in the mood. I'm avoiding them if i'm tired, if i'm hangover. Can't wait for the Mick Gordon's Doom Eternal OST tidal release. DT 1990 might be the best headphone to listen that album.

Yeah, I can relate that with my DT770. Haven't used that in a while but it depends on my mood and I have no problem with it using for GTAV but scares me too when not in the mood. The Amirons have become my main headphones.

great comparisons--can anyone weigh in on how T1.2 compares?

Amiron Home is 340g, T5p.2 350g and T1.2 360g if that's what you mean. The Amiron Wireless Copper is the heaviest, 400g

 

[aldinho878]

Has anyone tried this SPC cable from Meze? https://mezeaudio.com/collections/a...-plated-upgrade-cables?variant=31315944636473

Can anyone confirm that this will work with the Amiron Home?

Also any recommendations for a dac/amp to drive these? Currently using a Mojo which sounds great. Never ventured into the tube amp world but have always been curious. Is there anything semiportable/compact as far as tube amps go?

 

[393699]

The Amiron is already a warmish sounding headphone, so tubes may not be the way to go. That is, unless you want the Amiron to sound even warmer than it does now.

 

[cirodts]

I am undecided between S.M.S.L SP200 THX and lake people g111 for my amiron, advice?

 

[393699]

The SMSL wins across the board in terms of specs. I think that is the better choice.

 

[cirodts]

Is SMSL SP200 THX less powerful than g111?