I'm looking for a relatively affordable headphone that is open, needs amping, good for jazz and classical until i can afford another TOTL headphone to compliment my oppo pm1. The amiron might satisfy especially as i have good experience with dt880 600 ohm sound and comfort. T1 gen 2 not comfortable for me in that it clamped too hard. The key point here is i'm hoping to buy chord's new £4K TT2 (hugo2 TT) in september. My question is would the amiron home scale up well and prove to be resolving enough with this real high end gear? Is anyone using amiron with high end gear?
Beyerdynamic Amiron Home (the new T90)
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Dobrescu George
Reviewer: AudiophileHeaven
I tried them with iDSD Black Label, Burson Play, and a few other higher end sources, Amiron scales fairly well with better source
This means taht they are revealing enough to reveal the differences in the source
Thanks that's great. I need to understand using a 500 headphone with a 4000 source as a stepping stone say endgame for a year till i buy higher end phones. My main concern is to make sure the amiron can fully reflect the TT2. I'm going through the thread looking for users with high end gear.
Dobrescu George
Reviewer: AudiophileHeaven
You should also check out Beyerdynamic T1 if you have a 4K USD source
Amrion really reflects high-end sources well, don't worry about it
Thanks George. Is amiron less clamping force than t1 gen2?
Dobrescu George
Reviewer: AudiophileHeaven
I haven't tested T1 Gen 2 for long enough to say for sure, but Amiron is one of the most comfortable headphones I ever touched, the earpads are large, deep, they never touch your ears, the whole headphone is so comfy that you can literally just keep it on your head for an entire day while working. They are not heavy either, and the soft material helps a lot with the comfort
Lurk650
Headphoneus Supremus
Been using my HK6 this past week, as well as my 99C occasionally. I bought a balanced cable for these Amiron's but decided to buy an Ibasso CA01 to use an adapter on that cable to use with my Burson DAC on my MacBook. Finally got it today, what a combo this chain is. Listening to some Sade right now.
DW75, MelonHead, I did the box stretch and it helped but didn't completely solve the problem and I don't want them fitting any looser if I can avoid it. So I took the BrainWavz earpads off of my SE A-1000 phones and put them on the Amiron Home. That solved the pain issue but made them sound boomy and lose highs.
I played around with pushing the cans closer to my ears and even pushing them closer towards the back, at an angle, and they regained most of the original sound. I wish I'd have listened to some music before I changed the pads for an A/B comparison.
BrainWavez does make an angled set of pads I can get but what I was wanting to know is if you or anyone knows of thinner or better replacement pads I could get for the Amiron Home. I hate to lose any of the original sound. Kinda defeats the purpose of getting them.
I played around with pushing the cans closer to my ears and even pushing them closer towards the back, at an angle, and they regained most of the original sound. I wish I'd have listened to some music before I changed the pads for an A/B comparison.
BrainWavez does make an angled set of pads I can get but what I was wanting to know is if you or anyone knows of thinner or better replacement pads I could get for the Amiron Home. I hate to lose any of the original sound. Kinda defeats the purpose of getting them.
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Sorry to hear that, but don't give up until 2-3 additional nights!
I am seriously shocked you are having any comfort problem. This is the first I have ever heard of anyone saying "painful" when using the Amiron Home. One thing you could try is just to wear the headphone with another notch or two bigger on each side, to reduce the clamp on your head. At least then you won't be permanently stretching out the headphone more.
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frogmeat69
100+ Head-Fier
DChris, if you haven't already, maybe have a doctor check the sore spot behind your ear, because the Beyer line of over the ear headphones are the most comfortable I have ever worn, with the exception of the Nighthawk, and the Fidelio X2 is a close runner up, shouldn't experience pain from wearing them.
I am sorry you gotta deal with this, hope you can find a remedy to your discomfort.
I am sorry you gotta deal with this, hope you can find a remedy to your discomfort.
Thanks for the suggestion but it's been a problem my whole life. I think it's the nerves where the jawbone "attaches" to the skull. That's the area the pain is in. It's only with Over the Ear type headphones. My K240's don't cause the problem. Even my SE A-1000 bothered me until I put BrainWavz pads on them and those are some loose fitting headphones. I tried the BrainWavz pads on the Amiron's and no pain but it killed the sound quality. The pads helped the sound on the Pioneer SE A-1000 though. Luckily reinstalling the original pads on the Beyers wasn't hard. I was amazed at how big of an impact different pads had on the sound quality of the Amiron's.
I've been doing the stretching the headphones over the box thing and it's helping. Almost have them stretched enough to be perfect. I've also discovered where the cans attach to the yoke it's tight enough were I can angle the cans up a bit and take pressure off the area; which helps too.
I believe in a day or so I'll have them stretched out to where it won't be a problem.
Thanks for the input to my problem, I do appreciate it.
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frogmeat69
100+ Head-Fier
Maybe try some pain relief rub on the spot, like Biofreeze or Aspercream, worth a try to calm inflammation if it's a nerve. If it's where your jaw bone joint is, it sounds like TMJ or TMD, which I have, but it only bothers me when I am at the dentist having to hold my mouth open, after about 2 minutes my jaw starts throbbing.
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That could be worth a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have them stretched out to where they are good now. I also just finished an 8hr. white noise break in session using https://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.php for the white noise. They have gained more highs and efficiency. Don't have to turn up the A20 as much to get the same loudness now.
Cool sound files at that site and they have a calibration page to set the sounds you hear on their pages to your cans/ears for better balance. https://mynoise.net/calibration.php
I enjoy listening to the rain sounds to relax.
Thanks to everyone for the help, much appreciated.
What surprises me is the Fiio E17K USB doesn't sound really any better than running straight out of my laptop headphone jack. Now I'm thinking of getting a stand alone DAC, looking at the Schitt Modi2 multibit or Bifrost multibit. Bifrost is a bit more than I'd like to spend but if it's worth it. Research time again, gotta let the wallet cool down after the Amiron purchase.
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