[azncookiecutter]

Sennheisers are usually more laid back and refined. Grados do a much better job in presenting the raw energy of the genres you listed.

 

[Davesrose]

Being a Sennheiser person, I can say that the best Sennheisers can get really rockin....BUT, they need an expensive rig. Grados are the best at metal and heavy rock on a regular system. Hands down, best for your budget.

 

[PERESZ]

but do they isolate at least a bit?

 

[reivaj]

is isolation really necessary?

 

[3lusiv3]

Grado's generally lack bass don't they?

 

[kugino]

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Originally Posted by 3lusiv3 Grado's generally lack bass don't they?

with the flats they don't...definitely much more bass than the kx01 series...

my favorite can under $100 is still the sr60...best value headphones period. so much sound for so little dough.

but a new favorite is the recabled k81dj, which is still below $100 even after the recable job (and paying someone to do it). it loses all that boomy bass and replaces it with a tight, controlled bass and better soundstage. i'm really liking how these sound after the recable...

sr60 or recabled k81dj...either way, you win

 

[PERESZ]

isolation isn't that nessesery, but at least to have some would be realy nice.Can Grados provide that? and ar they good for outdoors use?

 

[jilgiljongiljing]

grados are a complete no no for outdoor use. No isolation at all, and u can prolly use them as portable speakers

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They are good only for listening in a quiet environment, I mentioned the same thing regarding MS-1's in my previous post, the same holds good for grado SR series as well.

 

[PERESZ]

so what would be the best choise for outdoors?

 

[jilgiljongiljing]

AKG K81 DJ. 55 bucks shipped. No regrets.

 

[PERESZ]

i'm not sure about AKG K81 DJ, cause they ar made for DJ use, also i found these models from AKG: K 412 P,K 24 P/K 26 P, can anybody recomend them?

 

[smeggy]

MS1 with comfies dammit!!!

 

[PERESZ]

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Originally Posted by smeggy MS1 with comfies dammit!!!

I'm new here, so can someone explain to me what "comfies" exactly means?
and by the way aren't MS1 are Grado's?that ar unsutable for outdoors?

 

[kugino]

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Originally Posted by PERESZ i'm not sure about AKG K81 DJ, cause they ar made for DJ use, also i found these models from AKG: K 412 P,K 24 P/K 26 P, can anybody recomend them?

just because they say, "DJ" doesn't mean they're only made for DJs. it's really only a marketing tool to get DJs to buy them...i'm not even sure what makes for a DJ-specific headphone except that they be closed.

"comfies" are the pads that come with the sr60. they are made of a softer foam material, similar to the hd414...the flats and the bowls are both made with a denser material. the comfies do not have a hole in them like the bowls or flats, although some mod them to give them quarter-sized holes.

 

[reivaj]

who cares if its suitable for outdoors. just use them indoors and be in heaven