[member1982]

I tried the Ultrasone Pro750s when it was not entirely burned in with Nightwish, and the recording at VBR 192KB/s sounds totally awesome, Thin just focused on 2 specturms left and right... no surround

After burned in its awesome sounding.

 

[scytheavatar]

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Originally Posted by Elotemuygrande /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm no expert, but personally I would not recommend any of the Grado80-225 series for metal. Haven't tried anything like the RS-1, but my experience with the Grados was they had one of the best sounds I've heard but they lacked the bass punch needed for things like metal. Downright anemic in just that one category. I'm listening to some Denon D2000s that just came in the mail and they have oh so much more bass punch, but just a little less detail so far. You might give the D5000s a look...

When it comes to the best metal phones, you always have to decide between speed and bass. The Denons will have lots of bass but they are very slow and in particular the D5000 is going to be too boomy for a lot of metal. Plus the D2000/D5000 lean towards the dark and laid back side, and has a bit of recession in its mids. So IMHO the Grados outperform the Denons when it comes to metal (the Denons are still better than the HD650 as metal phones though). Metal is not a bass dominated genre anyway, in case you haven't notice most of the time the bassline is a lot softer than what you'll hear in rock. Bass in metal is supposed to be working in the background supporting the guitars, and not take over the attention. Of course, then again some recordings have basslines so soft they're almost bassless (*cough* AJFA *cough*) and in that case a bassy headphone might be welcomed.

 

[orangehole]

It also depends on the type of metal since all metal is not the same. I enjoy a faster paced power metal and love to hear those double bass drums thumping. The DT770/80 does a great job for me.

 

[Muftobration]

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Originally Posted by pfillion /img/forum/go_quote.gif x2, the Ultrasone 780s are also very good with heavy-metal.

I was going to make this same recommendation.

 

[Gu Sensei]

For speedier stuff, I would suggest L3000, HFI-780, Ed. 9, RS-1, AD2000. For a bit slower and your classical, the D7000 is a real treat. It makes big magnificent music sound big and magnificent.

 

[MaZa]

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Originally Posted by scytheavatar /img/forum/go_quote.gif When it comes to the best metal phones, you always have to decide between speed and bass. The Denons will have lots of bass but they are very slow and in particular the D5000 is going to be too boomy for a lot of metal. Plus the D2000/D5000 lean towards the dark and laid back side, and has a bit of recession in its mids. So IMHO the Grados outperform the Denons when it comes to metal (the Denons are still better than the HD650 as metal phones though). Metal is not a bass dominated genre anyway, in case you haven't notice most of the time the bassline is a lot softer than what you'll hear in rock. Bass in metal is supposed to be working in the background supporting the guitars, and not take over the attention. Of course, then again some recordings have basslines so soft they're almost bassless (*cough* AJFA *cough*) and in that case a bassy headphone might be welcomed.

x2. I hate too bassy cans for metal most of the time. Now, there are genres and styles that prefer a strong and weighty bass. Doom metal and especially funeral doom and similar, for example, require hefty bass. Grados definetly wont do there, and neither does SA5000. DT770, possibly Denons or such are pretty much required.

Grados instead have a very good punch and still very tight to keep up with fast doublebass drumming without blurring out guitars. They do not sound basslight though if recording really has bass in it. For example, Hate Eternals - I, Monarch with its loudly mixed drums really does sound doublebass heavy mayhem on Grados.



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man.. I'm like an ADD kid.. actually in the process of changing my new placed order from 325 to 225. Mike (technical manager from HeadRoom) had this to say when I told him I was exchaning 702's for 325s "If you are into metal, I can definitely see the 702 is not for you. The 325i may work, but I do want to warn you that the 325i is probably the brightest headphone I have ever heard. The metal enclosure they use really enhances the highs so much that they can be pretty harsh. Honestly you might want to try the 225 instead. I really like the 225 and for metal it's damn near perfect. Great detailed highs, good mids, and the bass goes deep, but not too deep. I think the 225 is closer to the RS-1 sound than the 325i so you may want to give them a shot instead"

I agree with mike, SR225 is the sweetspot in Grado line, next way up are RS2 and RS1. SR325i, while technically superior, its bit too specialised. Their highs tend to get in the way especially when treble heavy recordings are listened.


For burn-in, I wouldnt worry too much. Whenever you are not listening them, take some bass heavy AND intense song and perhaps a clip of some pink and/or white noise and put them on repeat. Use your listening volume or slightly louder, and do this untill they are continously played from 24 to 48 hours. That should be enough for any headphone, IMHO, they arent microwave ovens with "*ping* xxx-hours reached" afterall, really. If anymore burning in happens, let it happen while you listen and enjoy your headphones. Dont be too anxious about that sorts of thing.

 

[Murdoch]

I'ee recommend the grado 225s too. the 125s are too bright, and the 325 even more so. the 225 are indeed the sweet spot.

I also like the dt770/80 for the brighter material, since they are on the darker, bassy side.

Sennheiser 595's (I have the 120 ohm version) are nice too, when you want a little distance but I think in your op you said you have senns already.

Really, in my limited experience, the 225 offers amazing prat and nice solid bass. the highs will mellow with burn in, and proper cup/ear positioning makes a big difference if you find them on the bright side occasionally

 

[Meliboeus]

My main musical genre is metal and i think the grados are the best for most recordings: the sr-225 have extreme speed, especially in the bass region, fast doublebass is crystal clear, the vocals are forward on the point of being harsh on some recordings, the 990s on the other side have great soundstage, electric guitars sound quite distant, the bass is a bit slower but still well controlled and never boomy with the right amplification, it depends on the music, the beyers are awesome for slow-paced stuff, good for average heavy metal, but try listening to some Nile with them, i wish you good luck

 

[Relinquished]

ES7 is good too

 

[t3hggnore]

I've heard that the Sennheisers do well as an all around headphone, but if specifically used for metal they are a bit too laid back...

That being said, I guess no one knows of headphones that perform superbly for metal and..say acoustic music? Meh, can't have your cake and eat it too...

 

[Bojamijams]

RS-1 and ESW10JPN will have you covered for all kinds of rock, electronic/industrial, metal and everything in between.

RS-1: Thrash metal, heavy metal, classic rock, death metal, grunge

ESW10JPN: doom metal, industrial/electronic, alternative rock, symphonic metal, stoner metal

 

[Fastnbulbous]

Old thread I know, but given the numerous recommendations for DT770, can anyone comment on the updated T70 now that the other is discontinued? 
 
"Beyerdynamic has made some of the most venerable sealed-back headphones ever in the industry, like the now-discontinued DT770 model. Their newly engineered 'Tesla' voice coil design seriously ups the audio ante for audiophilic listeners needing ambient noise attenuation and mild isolation for their listening environs. Majorly improved resolution and musical detail and with much wider dynamics are the advancements found in the T70, along with a soundstage image spaciousness that is particularly impressive in a closed-back headphone. 250 Ohm impedance ideal for headphone amps."
 
Along those lines, opinions of the Denon AH-D600 now that the AH-D2000 and D5000 are discontinued? I have the D2000 which is a workhorse for sure, but am curious to try possibly the Beyerdynamics T70. I listen to lots of stoner/doom/psych.
 
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 Doom metal and especially funeral doom and similar, for example, require hefty bass. Grados definetly wont do there, and neither does SA5000. DT770, possibly Denons or such are pretty much required.