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I was referring to Wavelength.
Originally Posted by little-endian /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hey Gordon, no need to get upset here. I have read your post - in opposite to you when it comes to mine I'm afraid. You're invited to read my post #1428 to find the answer to your question. You should allow yourself to trust a professional engineer from a company which manufactures these devices and one who is indeed layman in comparison but has understood the most important basics pretty well (me) a bit more. Thanks, little-endian |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif LE, I also want you to realize that we have characterized and held listening test's at CES with dealers, media and other even competing companies. |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif It was plain to hear that when converting a lossless file to another format (WAV/AIFF) which was uncompressed that there was a differential in sound that was easily heard. It more true in slower machines but we did the test on both OSX and Windows as both the MAC mini we had setup and the MacBook both had bootcamp installed with Vista Ultimate. |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif The thing you further have to understand is this. With a product like the Benchmark that puts the data through a upsampler to remove the jitter there should be LESS of difference in sound. |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif But in the end Joijwall did hear a difference from the same file. Which means as bits are not bits as they would be identical in nature. |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif Guys for years we have struggled with SPDIF and originally people would say bits are bits why does this digital cable sound different than that one. Now we know allot more of why that is. |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif Missinformation is the biggest crime in Computer Audio. The idea that the KMIXER is bit perfect. Common.... There is not a person alive who has heard the KMIXER then bypassed it and heard the difference and said they where the same. If the KMIXER is truely bit perfect then... bits are bits correct? I have heard the truth, what about you? |
Originally Posted by sejarzo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why is it so hard to prove or disprove that KMIXER, or any other playback app or combination thereof, is bit perfect? Does no device exist that can take an S/PDIF input from a computer source and convert the bit stream back to a file to be compared to the original? |
Originally Posted by Wavelength /img/forum/go_quote.gif LE, It was plain to hear that when converting a lossless file to another format (WAV/AIFF) which was uncompressed that there was a differential in sound that was easily heard. It more true in slower machines but we did the test on both OSX and Windows as both the MAC mini we had setup and the MacBook both had bootcamp installed with Vista Ultimate. |
Originally Posted by KarateKid /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you think one needs to spend a lot of xlr interconnects? I know Benchmark aim to be transparent as possible when it comes to audio, I want to preserve that signature. Anyone got any tips or advice on xlr IC or a good balanced amp and whether I should go with opamps based or a discrete based? |
Originally Posted by EliasGwinn /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't think you need to spend more then $100 per cable. If you are using balanced cabling, I recommend Starquad analog cabling. Several manufacturers make starquad cable - Canare, Mogami, etc. I also recommend Neutrik connectors. There are many reasons why we recommend not employing balanced headphone drive systems, including significant distortion. So I have no suggestions except to avoid the topology all together. Thanks, Elias |
Originally Posted by KarateKid /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you mean I should not bother getting a balanced headphone amp with balance outs? Or one shouldn't use the back of the DAC1's xlr. |
Originally Posted by EliasGwinn /img/forum/go_quote.gif It is not a good idea to drive headphones with balanced cables, no matter what source. It causes significant distortion. I can explain this in detail, or you can find my posts on the subject earlier in this thread (good luck). Don't confuse with driving equipment with balanced cables. That is not a problem. But the idea of balanced headphones has major problems. I'll be back here on Head-Fi Wednesday. Have a great weekend!! Thanks, Elias |
Originally Posted by EliasGwinn /img/forum/go_quote.gif It is not a good idea to drive headphones with balanced cables, no matter what source. It causes significant distortion. I can explain this in detail, or you can find my posts on the subject earlier in this thread (good luck). Don't confuse with driving equipment with balanced cables. That is not a problem. But the idea of balanced headphones has major problems. I'll be back here on Head-Fi Wednesday. Have a great weekend!! Thanks, Elias |
Originally Posted by KarateKid /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sorry to keep you. I hope you have a good weekend. However, you did not recommend using balanced headphones straight out of the DAC1, is it better to use a balanced headphone amp, even if it's still not ideal as you've explained? |