AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

Jun 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM Post #901 of 3,694
  "In every case it will be necessary to provide a copy of the original invoice or store receipt to the distributor. In the event that you are unable to provide proof of purchase directly then you should contact the reseller from whom you purchased the product and attempt to obtain proof of purchase from them."
 
This probably means that only the original seller can get warranty work for the one year warranty. This seems to be most common among audio manufacturers. One exception is Pass Labs who will even repair for free after the warranty runs out because they get so few returns for defects.

While I agree that returning it is the smartest choice, I do not at all think that having to provide proof of purchase means the warranty is non-transferable. That is standard for pretty much any warranty ever. The proof of purchase has the date you bought it on. How else would they know when the warranty period started?
 
Jun 30, 2016 at 4:05 PM Post #902 of 3,694














Screen grabs of my latency tests (top 2), both software say PC is capable of streaming realtime audio.

Second screen grab shows latency at to be under 4ms which is considered good by Dante software, you can also see the settings for everything Rednet/Dante in that 3rd screen.

The last screen was the last step to achieve 24/192khz to work with my R3 and my slower 1.7ghz i7 over gigabit lan direct pc to R3 connect. First with the NiC enabled I unchecked everything and hit ok. Naturally the network card can not connect to anything without those services enabled. Then I turned them all on -- this was when 24/192khz became available to the Rednet. Then I started clicking things off one at a time to see which minimum set I need to run Rednet 3 and the last screenshot shows 3 items checked. I don't know what setting your setup this way will do to a computer hooked up over LAN that relies on other things besides feeding a Rednet with music so change this at your own risk.


As someone else already mentioned, that thesycon app is useless for win8/10. And your DPC numbers dont look good at all, the ~300 median is pretty bad and you have spikes over 500. Judging by the screenshots, the nvidia card is the biggest issue (check the drivers tab in LatencyMon to see all). I guess you have an nvidia optimus laptop. Nvidia drivers are quite often mentioned in Dpc threads and optimus is the worse possible config. You should disable the extra nvidia card in the bios. And it's always a good idea to disable all unused devices in DeviceManager: e.g. webcam, usb devices, internal soundcard, etc..
 
Jun 30, 2016 at 4:11 PM Post #903 of 3,694
I bought this "Whalen Audio Video Tower" on Amazon for $100 to hold my dac, amp, rednet, power conditioner, speaker amp, PlayStation, and blu-ray . I'm thinking of painting the Rednet with black plastidip to keep the black scheme of the rack. And if I ever want to go back to red I'd just peel the plastidip off.

 
Jun 30, 2016 at 4:24 PM Post #904 of 3,694
I will run it again later and check the drivers. Although the only nvidia device in device mgr is the gt425 video card..
As someone else already mentioned, that thesycon app is useless for win8/10. And your DPC numbers dont look good at all, the ~300 median is pretty bad and you have spikes over 500. Judging by the screenshots, the nvidia card is the biggest issue (check the drivers tab in LatencyMon to see all). I guess you have an nvidia optimus laptop. Nvidia drivers are quite often mentioned in Dpc threads and optimus is the worse possible config. You should disable the extra nvidia card in the bios. And it's always a good idea to disable all unused devices in DeviceManager: e.g. webcam, usb devices, internal soundcard, etc..
 
Jun 30, 2016 at 7:32 PM Post #905 of 3,694
   
 
I have the D16 AES which looks even less "domestic" than the R3.
I agree about the sound!
Mine's such a "keeper" that I fettled my own furniture for it.
Shabby chic buttercup doesn't look too shabby to me!

 Nice. What kind of speakers are those?
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 1:13 AM Post #909 of 3,694
So I have ≈300 hrs on my RN3 and it just keeps getting 'better'.
Right now the SQ is starting to blossom (on the upswing) and the individual 'voices' are increasing in focus and differentiation.
 
I'll be testing a variety of fuses here in the near future and today I just added the ether–>fibre–>ether system between my Mac and the RN3.
 
So far it seems 'better' but right now the difference is on the threshold of perceptibility at this point.
 
I did measure the noise' from the cheap SMPS that comes with the TP-LINK devices
 

 
That's 34.6mv peak to peak or ≈24mv rms of noise from that wall wart, not to mention the waveform shape, not being a sine wave, is adding even more hi-freq harmonics…
I even added a .22mfd bypass cap to see if it would help but alas it made no difference.
I can see why a cleaner PS would be 'better'.
 
Also my AES parts and cables are on their way, so next week I should have even MOAR to fuss with.
 
JJ
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 9:41 AM Post #910 of 3,694
I'm going to just give in and order a RN3 this weekend. I highly, highly doubt a 2-channel version will be coming any time soon and once it does I don't think it will be much cheaper - if the AM2 is $400, Atterotech with Ultimo 24/96 $599, then a Brooklyn based card will be at least $100 more is my guess. If it gets ‘audiophile’ treatment, it’ll be even more – maybe even more than the RN 3! Also, another question is what are the chances the tech will improve within the next few years in terms of sound quality? What would that entail?
 
I still have a diy sd card player project going, so there will be an opportunity to compare, which should be interesting.
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 11:37 AM Post #911 of 3,694
I bought this "Whalen Audio Video Tower" on Amazon for $100 to hold my dac, amp, rednet, power conditioner, speaker amp, PlayStation, and blu-ray . I'm thinking of painting the Rednet with black plastidip to keep the black scheme of the rack. And if I ever want to go back to red I'd just peel the plastidip off.




I'm glad (and hoping) your'e kidding.:D

KEFs huh?
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM Post #912 of 3,694
I'm glad (and hoping) your'e kidding.:D

KEFs huh?


The thought crossed my mind and I do have a fresh can in the garage. It's an easy 2 way ticket if you get 6 coats of plastidip and the red looks good as new. Maybe I'll keep it red or maybe The Rolling Stones planted a sublimibug.

Yes yes, some old school gems of speakers. RB2013 gave me a good deal on em. :D
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 12:57 PM Post #914 of 3,694
Another source for those of you looking to rack up the Rednet boxes.... http://nice-racks.com/
 
I've got two racks from him and they're very nice. I don't think he's been in the best of health, so he's only taking orders by request. His prices are very good considering it's all custom work.
 
Jul 1, 2016 at 3:36 PM Post #915 of 3,694
  If Plastidip works, it'd make me more likely to keep the Rednet. It's distracting how red it is since it sits right under my monitor.

 
Since there is nothing to really monitor on that front panel how about just making a strip of black thick construction paper and let it mask the front. No fuss, no muss....
 
That is my plan if I get a second one for the headphone system in my office. 
 

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