AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

Sep 21, 2016 at 4:07 PM Post #1,846 of 3,694
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Despite this, I'm going to try out the D16, and see if it improves on my microrendu + js2 > chord sarum usb > regen > chord sarum usb > Ifi usb3 + js2 > chord sarum usb > puc2 > MIT aes.

 
Outstanding! I'm very much looking forward to the outcome of your D16  vs USB chain comparison.
 
Sep 21, 2016 at 9:19 PM Post #1,847 of 3,694
Passe ? Given that we're talking communications protocols which have been 'obsolete' for at least 20 years (TCP/IP was never intended to be 'secure' or even particularly robust), I dont get too hung up on whether something is outdated or not.

On a lighter note, it would appear that the Rednet3 has a major advantage over its competition:

https://us.focusrite.com/rednet-how

I'm guessing that if Schiit ever release a product in this space, their marketing will look more like the cover of a Cannibal Corpse album (in the interests of good taste, I wont go there - Google is your friend).
I rec you read the beginning of this thread, much posted on the drawbacks of DNLA/UnUP...but if thatworks for you great.

Been a big Schiit HP amp fan, dacs not so much...
 
Sep 21, 2016 at 11:57 PM Post #1,852 of 3,694
Just spoke with someone very high up the chain at a major Pro Audio company, they have a major Dante release coming. Promised me one of the first final proto for review.

This could be a game changer...


What are the unique selling points of operating a full Focusrite Rednet system vs a generic Dante system? In other words, what would one lose by leaving the Rednet universe and going with a generic Dante component?
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 12:37 AM Post #1,853 of 3,694
What are the unique selling points of operating a full Focusrite Rednet system vs a generic Dante system? In other words, what would one lose by leaving the Rednet universe and going with a generic Dante component?


What is a 'generic Dante component'?
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 2:19 AM Post #1,855 of 3,694
So really what your asking is what are the differences between Focusrite's implementation of hardware to a 'generic' hardware implementation?

That's almost impossible to answer since the Focusrite's hardware is only revealed by their marketing info…
https://us.focusrite.com/rednet/the-sound-of-rednet

Let alone what hardware is used in a generic platform.

And then there is the Focusrite s/w vs the s/w provided by a generic source (if any).

This gear is aimed at the pro audio market which doesn't try to 'sell' in the same way as consumer audio gear does.
IOW there is a degree of knowledge dealing with the underlying technology that is assumed.

JJ
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 4:07 AM Post #1,856 of 3,694
Just spoke with someone very high up the chain at a major Pro Audio company, they have a major Dante release coming. Promised me one of the first final proto for review.

This could be a game changer...

 
You tease.... :-) :-)
 
Seriously, any more info you are able to divulge at this stage? Are we talking affordable, small, 2-channel, etc etc? What kind of timescale do you think is "coming"?
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 4:10 AM Post #1,857 of 3,694
Any component with an Audinate card built in. For example, the Burl DAC with Dante.



I don't believe there exists a 'generic Dante', only manufacturer based implementations using Dante protocol.
FocusRite has its implementation of its hardware components, Burl has its own implementation of its components.
The 'only' common denominator is the usage of Audinate's Dante protocol for communication among these devices. You can mix and match any Dante device from any manufacturer. Each manufacturer decides for itself what function each component has.

So FocusRite is not higher/bigger/different to any other hardware manufacturer using Dante protocol.
It is only a matter of finding a device that has the features you are looking for and trying it out to see if the hardware is up to the audiophile levels you are looking for.
Dante's Rednet 3 and D16 is just what many are looking for when keeping your current DAC, and the Burl B2 DAC might be what others are looking for if looking for a new DAC.
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 5:38 AM Post #1,859 of 3,694
 
yeah... but peteAllen source is microrendu + js2, which is much closer to a full-blown audiophile type server....
I will be looking forward to that comparison also...

I don't mean to specifically point at your setup, but to point out that the factors that AOIP brings to the party are, galvanic isolation and the separation of signal's data and timing that is being sent from the 'source' to the dac.
And of course there are others as well but these seem to be of key importance.
And as has been brought up, improving these aspects even further can make further significant improvements as well.
 
The Dante networking solution is key but it's only one of several 'ingredients' necessary to successfully make this solution function and do so without performance 'issues'.
 
Lastly, the move towards adopting and implementing AES 67 protocols should also 'open up' the field of device interoperability within any suitable AOIP network.
IOW mixing and matching different h/w and s/w should become doable, to some extent.
 
JJ
 
Sep 22, 2016 at 7:44 AM Post #1,860 of 3,694
Any component with an Audinate card built in. For example, the Burl DAC with Dante.

 
Reading through the thread you will probably find your question basically answered. There is high interest in the Burl but there are not many other products out there that are similar. Also the Burl locks one into their DAC whose sonic flavor may not be everyone's choice. The nice thing about the REDnet products is that they are just an interface and can be used with your DAC of choice. A "Swiss Army Knife" "one size fits all" device can be limiting for some. If you like it's SQ however it is a simple solution.
 
If you can find any new implementations please let us know...
 

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