Audio-GD NFB-11.32 & NFB-11 (2014) (Delivery & Impression Thread)!!!
Sep 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM Post #46 of 3,093
Nice!!!!!
 
Definitely looking forward to your impressions on how the 11.32 will sound from those towers....If I had those speakers, my neighbors will definitely kick my @ss....lol....
 
 
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Sep 2, 2012 at 9:03 PM Post #49 of 3,093
Hi Kingwa and all,
 
i was trying 24bit / 192 khz on nfb11.32 ... on coaxial is fine, but on toslink ( Optical Cable ), appears silent. It that normal? For 24bit / 96 khz, it work well for both digital connectors. 
 
i got  32bit / 192khz on USB, which works excellent.
 
Sep 2, 2012 at 9:26 PM Post #50 of 3,093
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Hi Kingwa and all,
 
i was trying 24bit / 192 khz on nfb11.32 ... on coaxial is fine, but on toslink ( Optical Cable ), appears silent. It that normal? For 24bit / 96 khz, it work well for both digital connectors. 
 
i got  32bit / 192khz on USB, which works excellent.


Try a different optical cable.When you removed it,an opt cable can go bad when you bend it....even just a little......peter
 
Sep 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM Post #51 of 3,093
Depend on the source, a lot source specs the optical support up to 96KHz .
The optical receiver on the NFB11.32 is can receive 192KHz signal, but for avoid the trouble, we declare on the specs:
[size=x-small]Optical model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz (176.4KHz and 192KHz available if the source support)[/size]
 
Sep 2, 2012 at 9:33 PM Post #52 of 3,093
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I'm currently using EMP 55ti towers with the Revel T-7 sub.....very musical.I'll be interested to hear the USB input on the 11.32.On my other Dacs,I've always used the Opt/coax input from my computer to a Musiland 32/384 external soundcard.
 
I've found this to be better than USB.However it sounds like the USB on the 11.32 is far superior to USB inputs on older Dacs.This would be great,as the less things you have in the audio chain,the better,imho.......Peter

Hi Peter, I tried 2 different Toslink cable...and both did not work. I read that Toslink ( Spdif ) has bandwidth limitation to 96Khz, but i am not sure. 
Does yours work? ...
 
Sep 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM Post #53 of 3,093
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Depend on the source, a lot source specs the optical support up to 96KHz .
The optical receiver on the NFB11.32 is can receive 192KHz signal, but for avoid the trouble, we declare on the specs:
[size=x-small]Optical model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz (176.4KHz and 192KHz available if the source support)[/size]

I see ... ok, i understand now, best regards ... 
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 8:02 AM Post #54 of 3,093
Hi all!
I must do a follow-up-writing on my NFB-11.32 burn in...now since 6 days (~140h).
 
The NFB-11.32 has matured much better than expected. I almost want to say that it is irritating that this piece of equipment can sound this good. On headphones HD650's I still think it can add more "space" to the scenario.. But as a dac....
 
At this very moment the NFB-11.32 is fed  through with one Logitech Squeezebox Touch w. "EDO" asynchronous via USB as in my earlier post. Now I am using it as a dac, connected to a NFB-6 preamp, connected to a Master-3 poweramp. On another input (XLR's) I am using a Ref 7.1 fed in the same way but different USBchip(Tenor8802L).
 
The Ref 7.1 sounds great... And Yes it should do so (otherwise I should be very disapointed).. But switching between these two channels on the NFB-6 (well burned in) gives in my opinion "too small difference" on the same musicmaterial. Read this in a positive way, as it's meant and don't misunderstand this. What I mean is that the NFB-11.32  used as a dac are competeing with one of the best dac's out there for reasonable money, and it can stand tall in this comparison. The Ref 7.1 has a bit more body ...but when listening to Diana Krall and others on good 24/96 and higher-recordings are fantastic on both (!) chains.
 
I think some of the success are the joint chips USB-32 and ES9018 that gives this super result.
 
Today I also noticed on the Audio-gd-webpage, new products listed with the new USB-32-inputs built in. There is no doubt Audio-gd are higher the levels of soundquality in the USB-area right now.
 
I think the future is I2S in dac's, in one way or another... (I2S-in or USB asynchronous) served from the net/Internet and Audio-gd lines up for this future.
 
 
The NFB-11.32 will continue the burn in and....I am not sure I want to have it any better ; )
Stay tuned.
 
Thanks for reading
 
/Jan
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 11:04 PM Post #55 of 3,093
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Well I will say something about the sound. I am listening through HD650 silverwired. The install was easy in my Win 7 Ultimate x64 on an ASUS 1215B (AMD E-350).
I have only tried the USB-input. The sound is crisp clear for sure and I must admit that the jitter surely are reduced in this USB-chip as advertised. ..but at this moment rather flat and thin.... This will better up massively later I know.
 
 
 
/Jan

I too agree with JaMo...There are plenty of details for this Sabre Dac...if we could " fatten " the sound output will be great. As it is today after 100 hours ... it is still a little thin.
My mini IBASSO d12 sounded more impactful then the nfb11.32 ... Hope this will change over time. 
 
Sep 6, 2012 at 4:51 PM Post #56 of 3,093
Anyone tried it with ipad's camera connection kit? The Odac with lower end Sabre chip works flawlessly.
 
Sep 6, 2012 at 7:29 PM Post #57 of 3,093
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Anyone tried it with ipad's camera connection kit? The Odac with lower end Sabre chip works flawlessly.

 
 
Hey .Sup,
 
That would be great, unfortunately I don't use the cck.  Hopefully someone would give it a shot.  I will tell you that it is sounding delicious right now with the i-20 though..lol..
 
Cheers!!!
 
 

 
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM Post #58 of 3,093
Hello, what do you suggest as upgrade from NFB12.1 (connected through USB - it has old interface with TE7022 chip). I would like to have a bit better sound than NFB12.1 (I have HD600)
 
NFB15.1 (after I'll sell NFB12.1, will cost me 32 more euro. )
NFB11.32 (will cost me 80 more euro - will the increase in quality match 50 eur, over NFB15.1 improvement?)
or
NFB5.2 (will cost me 165 more euro)
 
I would like to ask where will be improvement most worth of money... NFB15.1 (30 euro) vs NFB11.32 (80 euro) or NFB5.2 (165 euro)?
How do you compare NFB5.2 to NFB11.32?
Or additional options? (but only with limit $200) For example, let NFB12.1 and buy Hiface 2, and use coaxial instead USB (129 more euro)?
 
Thank you.
 

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