Audio GD NFB-11.28 vs R2R 11
Mar 18, 2018 at 6:57 AM Post #1,216 of 2,569
Hi All,

I am using NFB 11.28 + Schiit Eitr according to the specs page of nfb/r2r is as follows.

USB model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz , 192kHz, 352.8kHz,384kHz
Coaxial model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz ,192kHz

If I am playing any file up to 192kHz Coax through Schiit Eitr seems fine.

How about DSD Files ? Would it be recommended coax or usb direct ? Sorry am new for these high quality files.

Thanks
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 7:07 PM Post #1,217 of 2,569
I didn't even know that was an option... Time to go get the magni back from the friend I just sent it to

Any luck? Wondering how you feel about it now after spending some more time with it.
 
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Mar 19, 2018 at 7:23 PM Post #1,218 of 2,569
Or better yet, an NFB-1 (fully balanced). Cheaper too, with the same or more power. What can I say, I like Audio-GD.
I have the he560 at home. I drive them with an nfb-1amp. Compared to the r2r 11, you get better bass control, i confirm. I drive them balanced, and you have to to get the full power the amp can output. But bass control is also better when the single-ended out is used. The ouput impedance is lower with the nfb-1amp.
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 7:32 PM Post #1,219 of 2,569
Hi All,

I am using NFB 11.28 + Schiit Eitr according to the specs page of nfb/r2r is as follows.

USB model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz , 192kHz, 352.8kHz,384kHz
Coaxial model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz ,192kHz

If I am playing any file up to 192kHz Coax through Schiit Eitr seems fine.

How about DSD Files ? Would it be recommended coax or usb direct ? Sorry am new for these high quality files.

Thanks
Dsd is only possible through the usb input. Same for the r2r 11.
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 7:38 PM Post #1,220 of 2,569
Hi All,

I am using NFB 11.28 + Schiit Eitr according to the specs page of nfb/r2r is as follows.

USB model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz , 192kHz, 352.8kHz,384kHz
Coaxial model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz ,192kHz

If I am playing any file up to 192kHz Coax through Schiit Eitr seems fine.

How about DSD Files ? Would it be recommended coax or usb direct ? Sorry am new for these high quality files.

Thanks

IIRC Schiit gear (Eitr and DACs) don't support DSD at all.
 
Mar 23, 2018 at 5:46 AM Post #1,222 of 2,569
Does the R2R 11 have enough juice for the ATH W5000 Raffinato? Someone said the AD2000s are an excellent match, will it be so with the W5000?
I didn't have the chance to test it personally, but I'm sure, the R2R-11 can handle the ATH W5000 easily. As far as I remember, they are 40 Ohm impedance headphones, and this DAC/AMP can manage 600 Ohm cans as well.
 
Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM Post #1,224 of 2,569
I didn't have the chance to test it personally, but I'm sure, the R2R-11 can handle the ATH W5000 easily. As far as I remember, they are 40 Ohm impedance headphones, and this DAC/AMP can manage 600 Ohm cans as well.

W5000 is a super easy can to drive. Even iPhone can get it very loud

So a dedicated unit like R2R 11 should have no problem driving these
Ah yes I saw that later, it seems that they are easy to drive but picky with the sonic properties of the amps (but to the point of having to buy a 1k amp specifically designed for it? come on that sounds stupid) so I'll have to ask in the thread for those cans. Thanks for your answers guys!
 
Mar 23, 2018 at 11:45 AM Post #1,225 of 2,569
Ah yes I saw that later, it seems that they are easy to drive but picky with the sonic properties of the amps (but to the point of having to buy a 1k amp specifically designed for it? come on that sounds stupid) so I'll have to ask in the thread for those cans. Thanks for your answers guys!
They are bright sounding headphones, so a warm amp should pair well. I use a Project Sunrise and i think it pairs well
When i ran it on Fulla 2 it sounded thin and bright.
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 2:27 PM Post #1,226 of 2,569
Got my R2R 11 and its really good.

The DAC sounds fantastic, a significant upgrade from the ODAC, cant say if its is due to it being R2R or just a better DAC. Oversampling has a big effect on sound, its adds more 'detail'... need more time to evaluate if this is something I like this or not.

The amp is slightly disappointing. Compared to my modified O2 amp it's more laidback and tubby sounding, less dynamic, less vocal presence, its also less forgiving. Technically it is superior to the O2 - its cleaner sounding, better imaging and seperation, more controlled. Very thick sounding compared to the thin/dry O2. These differences might be related to the power difference. Might just be bad synergy with the DAC but you wont hear it any other way without an amp input, hopefully it will get it a bit more punch and air with burn-in.

I listen to mainly hip hop and electronic so keep that in mind

edit: No issues so far with DSD and it sounds really good which is unexpected, too bad its not that popular

Update: after 1 day of burn-in and warm up the amp livened up a bit, seems like the most cliched audiophile claim but my O2 still sounds the same as yesterday and this now sounds better.
 
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Mar 29, 2018 at 11:45 AM Post #1,227 of 2,569
There are rumors that r2r-11 is a NOS DAC based on a 1-bit multi-bit DAC. And also that the Audio-Gd R2R plays muddy (and dim), viscously and not in detail.
How do you like this? Does anyone hear it on their headphones or systems? Does someone think that r2r plays deafly and not in detail?
 
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Mar 29, 2018 at 4:42 PM Post #1,228 of 2,569
What is the source of these rumors? Can you link something?
Just my two cents, but after five weeks of extensive (150+ hours) evaluation I'm still in love with this device. It's crisp, detailed and very-very natural. I tend to use it more and more often in my Electrocompaniet/ProAc hifi system as well.
 
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Mar 29, 2018 at 4:51 PM Post #1,229 of 2,569
There are rumors that r2r-11 is a NOS DAC based on a 1-bit multi-bit DAC. And also that the Audio-Gd R2R plays muddy (and dim), viscously and not in detail.
How do you like this? Does anyone hear it on their headphones or systems? Does someone think that r2r plays deafly and not in detail?

Surely this does not warrent a serious reply?
 
Mar 29, 2018 at 4:57 PM Post #1,230 of 2,569
There are rumors that r2r-11 is a NOS DAC based on a 1-bit multi-bit DAC. And also that the Audio-Gd R2R plays muddy (and dim), viscously and not in detail.
How do you like this? Does anyone hear it on their headphones or systems? Does someone think that r2r plays deafly and not in detail?
Shill.
 

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