[agrumos79]

I am unable to do the native DSD capability! I also use audirvana but it is not able to detect DSd on my r2r7. atctually all becomes PCM on audirvanna, so when u use autodetect it stays as DSD? u use USB into the R2R?

Hmmm, actually if I set "Automatic Detection", DSD stays grey so I assume Audirvana does transpose to PCM. If I force DSD over PCM standard 1.0 or 1.1, DSD64 and DSD128 switch to green and I do hear the artifacts indeed. It works fine with "initial dCS method" but I don't know what that is.
Yes, I use the USB input.

 

[Heavyboxer]

Edit: wrong thread, reposted on R-28.

 

[MelonHead]

Hi, I have the exact same album (Amber Rubarth's Sessions) in DSD, and I can't hear any noise on my R2R-11 + HD 6XX. I use Audirvana Plus, with "Native DSD Capability" set on "Automatic Detection".
What part of what track do you have issues with? I'm keen to check more carefully.
Thanks

Some of us has tested the Amber Rubarth album, and after proper settings, all of the testers were able to observe the problem.
It was not software specific, as I got the same results both under FB 2000, Album Player, and Jriver with dedicated native DSD playback settings and DoP as well. As soon as I adjusted the parameters to on-the-fly PCM conversion, the problem -as well as the native DSD playback- has disappeared.

@Heavyboxer : Congrats, and enjoy your new Audio-gd R-28!

 

[agrumos79]

Some of us has tested the Amber Rubarth album, and after proper settings, all of the testers were able to observe the problem.
It was not software specific, as I got the same results both under FB 2000, Album Player, and Jriver with dedicated native DSD playback settings and DoP as well. As soon as I adjusted the parameters to on-the-fly PCM conversion, the problem -as well as the native DSD playback- has disappeared.

Yes, I confirm as well. On the fly conversion to PCM works well and I have very few DSD albums so it's not an issue at all for me.

 

[gLer]

So the postman just dropped this off:



Packed very well:


And setup temporarily on my pc till I clear some space for this beast:

I had no idea my LCD-2 sounded THIS good!!!

Looks awesome, except you might want to post this in the R-28 thread

 

[gLer]

Hmmm, actually if I set "Automatic Detection", DSD stays grey so I assume Audirvana does transpose to PCM. If I force DSD over PCM standard 1.0 or 1.1, DSD64 and DSD128 switch to green and I do hear the artifacts indeed. It works fine with "initial dCS method" but I don't know what that is.
Yes, I use the USB input.

Audirvana doesn’t automatically detect the DSD capability of the Amanero and therefore transcodes to PCM on the fly. You have to set it to DoP 1.0 or 1.1 and it’ll play native DSD (via DoP). Then all of Amber’s issues will be clearly heard

 

[Heavyboxer]

Looks awesome, except you might want to post this in the R-28 thread

I could've sworn this was the R-28 thread!! sorry about that.

Any moderator who can do it for me? Or must I?

 

[gLer]

I could've sworn this was the R-28 thread!! sorry about that.

Any moderator who can do it for me? Or must I?

Easier just to copy and paste your post into the R-28 thread. If the mods want to delete it off here they can.

 

[Chopin75]

Some of us has tested the Amber Rubarth album, and after proper settings, all of the testers were able to observe the problem.
It was not software specific, as I got the same results both under FB 2000, Album Player, and Jriver with dedicated native DSD playback settings and DoP as well. As soon as I adjusted the parameters to on-the-fly PCM conversion, the problem -as well as the native DSD playback- has disappeared.

@Heavyboxer : Congrats, and enjoy your new Audio-gd R-28!

The R2R11 is not designed to play DSD256 well, due to lack of FPGA. I have no issue with Amber DSD128 on R2R7.

 

[Chopin75]

Hmmm, actually if I set "Automatic Detection", DSD stays grey so I assume Audirvana does transpose to PCM. If I force DSD over PCM standard 1.0 or 1.1, DSD64 and DSD128 switch to green and I do hear the artifacts indeed. It works fine with "initial dCS method" but I don't know what that is.
Yes, I use the USB input.

This pertains to all Audirvanna users for all R2Rs audio -GD
DCS method is also PCM, I tried. - the L corner of Audirvanna shows whether your DAC is receiving DSD or PCM and the sampling rate etc. Should check that corner all the time since R2Rs do not have display of sampling or DSD vs PCM. Do the new R2Rs that have display panel show the sampling rate etc??

 

[gLer]

The R2R11 is not designed to play DSD256 well, due to lack of FPGA. I have no issue with Amber DSD128 on R2R7.

No issues with Amber on the R-28 either. On the R2R-11 it’s a mess.

 

[spacequeen7]

No issues with Amber on the R-28 either. On the R2R-11 it’s a mess.

No .it's not a "mess" if you on Windows and output PCM for DSD 256 and higher you are fine ..I think you prefer PCM over DSD on R28 how this end up working for you since both units use Amanero ?

EDIT; you keep comparing pure NOS vs. hybrid...... $350 unit vs.3x the price ..kinda silly

 

[elira]

No .it's not a "mess" if you on Windows and output PCM for DSD 256 and higher you are fine ..I think you prefer PCM over DSD on R28 how this end up working for you since both units use Amanero ?

I think the R28 has an additional stage for OS that seems to be eliminating the issues of the amanero board, the R2R11 is directly coupled so no additional FPGA to solve those issues.

 

[spacequeen7]

Exactly ,comparing both is no right

 

[gLer]

No .it's not a "mess" if you on Windows and output PCM for DSD 256 and higher you are fine ..I think you prefer PCM over DSD on R28 how this end up working for you since both units use Amanero ?

EDIT; you keep comparing pure NOS vs. hybrid...... $350 unit vs.3x the price ..kinda silly

Of course if you output PCM it’s fine. The R2R-11 only has issues with native DSD. The R-28 has no such issues, and price has nothing to do with it. Regardless the R2R-11 is an excellent choice for anyone who wants a top quality R2R dac. There’s nothing that I’ve heard that comes close even at twice the price.

Yes I’ve conpared the R-28 to the R2R-11 because I’ve personally used both and upgraded from one to the other. I’ve mostly compared it in response to people asking what the differences are and if the upgrade is worth the 3x price differential, which in my opinion it is.

Not sure what you mean by NOS vs hybrid NOS. Both the R2R-11 and R-28 are discrete NOS ladder dacs. The R-28 has OS modes as well, but that doesn’t make it a hybrid. When using NOS it’s as much a NOS dac as the R2R-11.