[jagwap]

Most of my listening with cypher and US Iphone is below 50%. Plenty of juice in my opinion.

I'm after a comparison between cypher volume and ordinary cable volume on an iphone (known output level)

 

[inertianinja]

I'm after a comparison between cypher volume and ordinary cable volume on an iphone (known output level)

I unfortunately don't have a euro limited phone to test. But the Cipher cable is significantly louder at the same volume level.

 

[Slaphead]

I'm after a comparison between cypher volume and ordinary cable volume on an iphone (known output level)

IME volume from Cipher at 50% is equal to the headphone port at around 80-85% - That's using a european iPod touch 6gen.

 

[sup27606]

Sine is a planar magnetic headphone and although it is meant to be used with portable devices, it is less efficient than other portable headphones. It is not surprising that the volume needs to be raised for Sine. E.g., on the Fiio E7, Sine gives the same volume at vol 20 what the ath M50 gives at vol 12, although Sine has less impedance than the M50.

Even if the Sine can be run at reasonable volume through some device, increased maximum power will improve the sound. This is explained in the Audeze support page. I ordered the Fiio E12 and this DAC: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B16X7WY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hopefully, these should work well with the Sine. Thanks to inthere and others for their suggestions.

 

[iEnginerd]

I just received mine in the mail, got them with the Cypher cable. They feel absolutely amazing with high quality materials and at first listen they sound fantastic. I can't wait to listen to them when I get home and actually have time to pay attention to the music!

 

[kzii]

Hi,
I listened Audeze Sine (today)  with Cipher on iPhone 6s (European) and on max volume I wasn't able to get proper listening levels on song such as:
Katie Melua - Shy Boy, Piece By Piece
Julia Fordham - Girlfriend, Happy as Ever
John Mayer - Neon (WTLI)
Rebecca Pidgeon - Kalerka

 

[Billheiser]

  Hi,
I listened Audeze Sine (today)  with Cipher on iPhone 6s (European) and on max volume I wasn't able to get proper listening levels on song such as:
Katie Melua - Shy Boy, Piece By Piece
Julia Fordham - Girlfriend, Happy as Ever
John Mayer - Neon (WTLI)
Rebecca Pidgeon - Kalerka

Hmm.  My Sine w/ Cipher on iPhone 6 (U.S) is LOUD, at less than 1/3rd volume.  EDIT:  at 1/2 volume.

 

[Wnuwk Siphon]

E12 has plenty of power for the Sine, turn it up loud enough and you'll blow the top of your head off. [lol/SNIP]

May I ask, how's that Cayin C5 compared to the E12 for driving the Sines?

 

[jagwap]

Hi,
I listened Audeze Sine (today)  with Cipher on iPhone 6s (European) and on max volume I wasn't able to get proper listening levels on song such as:
Katie Melua - Shy Boy, Piece By Piece
Julia Fordham - Girlfriend, Happy as Ever
John Mayer - Neon (WTLI)
Rebecca Pidgeon - Kalerka

Sounds like European volume capping getting the way there.

 

[jagwap]

I unfortunately don't have a euro limited phone to test. But the Cipher cable is significantly louder at the same volume level.

​I want to know about a non Euro iPhone.

 

[kzii]

Is it any solution for volume capped Iphone?

 

[inthere]

May I ask, how's that Cayin C5 compared to the E12 for driving the Sines?

 
Cayin C5 does everything just a little bit better than E12-bigger soundstage, a little bit more powerful, but they have very similar bass boost switches and clarity. E12 is smaller, C5 has way better battery life.Both are awesome portables. 

 

[jagwap]

Is it any solution for volume capped Iphone?

I've read that you can adjust it on a jailbreak phone. But it is a legal requirement (even if badly thought out) requirement on Europe so it will be resisted by the Apple overlords.

 

[Happy Hamlet]

  Hi,
I listened Audeze Sine (today)  with Cipher on iPhone 6s (European) and on max volume I wasn't able to get proper listening levels on song such as:
Katie Melua - Shy Boy, Piece By Piece
Julia Fordham - Girlfriend, Happy as Ever
John Mayer - Neon (WTLI)
Rebecca Pidgeon - Kalerka

 I just played Shy Boy and Piece by Piece by Katie Melua on my European iPhone 6s (the only songs on your list I have). I find about 3/4 listening volume fairly loud, and full volume painful.
 
Does anyone know if the digital out is even limited on European phones?

 

[kzii]

I used tidal hifi with ios10