Nice chain! I'd try some EQ like others suggested. I'm not a huge fan of eq but it can get you where you want to be.Computer >> WA11 Topaz >> LCD i4 is where I'm at now. I can change it up.
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Audeze LCD i4 TOTL In-Ear Monitor Discussion
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That would be a start as it should follow the Cipher cable tuning if you didn't get them with yours.Computer >> WA11 Topaz >> LCD i4 is where I'm at now. I can change it up. I can also engage the Audeze plug-in inside of Roon to see if it helps.
They need EQ to sound their best. The i4’s are somewhat enjoyable on their own, but with EQ they become something no standard IEM can match.I picked up a pair of these at the b-stock sale-- and they sound... disappointing. I'm hearing small peaks all over the midrange. Narrow peaks that give the IEM a honk at certain frequencies. I'm not sure I'm getting a good seal. I think foam eartips may do better, but the bore is too large for any of my Dekoni Bulletz to fit. I'm going a/b with these headphones with the 7Hz Timeless and they're getting smoked. The Timeless sounds smoother and faster-- with better bass response. Am I missing something? I've used the silicon tips and the ribbed tips-- I'll spend more time with them today, but I'm concerned. I'm a huge Audeze fan. I own the LCD-4, LCD-5, and CRBN. I don't want to dismiss these quickly, but they need to get better.
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Maybe the Euclid is more for you?I picked up a pair of these at the b-stock sale-- and they sound... disappointing. I'm hearing small peaks all over the midrange. Narrow peaks that give the IEM a honk at certain frequencies. I'm not sure I'm getting a good seal. I think foam eartips may do better, but the bore is too large for any of my Dekoni Bulletz to fit. I'm going a/b with these headphones with the 7Hz Timeless and they're getting smoked. The Timeless sounds smoother and faster-- with better bass response. Am I missing something? I've used the silicon tips and the ribbed tips-- I'll spend more time with them today, but I'm concerned. I'm a huge Audeze fan. I own the LCD-4, LCD-5, and CRBN. I don't want to dismiss these quickly, but they need to get better.
I was torn between these, the i3s, and the Euclid. Eventually went with the Euclid myself.
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LCDi4 needs eq imo. On PC, install Equalizer APO and the Audeze Reveal Legacy plugin. Both free. The plugin has the LCDi4 eq profile saved. If you want to further tweak the sound also install Peace GUI.Computer >> WA11 Topaz >> LCD i4 is where I'm at now. I can change it up. I can also engage the Audeze plug-in inside of Roon to see if it helps.
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You could also check out Crinacles EQ profile and use it with Peace. IT changes them from a honky mess to the best in ear I have ever used.I picked up a pair of these at the b-stock sale-- and they sound... disappointing. I'm hearing small peaks all over the midrange. Narrow peaks that give the IEM a honk at certain frequencies. I'm not sure I'm getting a good seal. I think foam eartips may do better, but the bore is too large for any of my Dekoni Bulletz to fit. I'm going a/b with these headphones with the 7Hz Timeless and they're getting smoked. The Timeless sounds smoother and faster-- with better bass response. Am I missing something? I've used the silicon tips and the ribbed tips-- I'll spend more time with them today, but I'm concerned. I'm a huge Audeze fan. I own the LCD-4, LCD-5, and CRBN. I don't want to dismiss these quickly, but they need to get better
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How do you compare the Euclid to the i4?Maybe the Euclid is more for you?
I was torn between these, the i3s, and the Euclid. Eventually went with the Euclid myself.
I've been messing with EQs and I turned the Audeze plugin i4 preset in Roon. They got better-- for sure. I still think the Timeless sounds faster through decay, smoother and more extended through the bass, and more intimate in the mids, plus they're a whole lot more comfortable. But at least the i4's are listenable now-- a bit warmer than the Timeless. I'll play with more eq settings to see if I can make further improvements-- basically look like you need to do a huge dip at 1k and a hefty push around 4k, then dial in the bass and treble to your liking. That's one massive eq shift to get these things sounding OK.You could also check out Crinacles EQ profile and use it with Peace. IT changes them from a honky mess to the best in ear I have ever used.
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If feel like there is an understanding that EQ comes along with these headphones. I’m not sure why they no longer provide the cipher cable but given the used to give it to you with the purchase and it has the DSP built in. I have always taken that as their intention. Same with heaving the EQ in reveal available. The i4 were (don’t know about still are) the lowest distortion driver on the market and so they are essentially made for EQ. Unfortunate that it is the case but to get to their potential it is basically a requirement which is a shame. To me it still sounds like something is wrong. I had the timeless and none of the categories you mentioned above does the Timeless even touch the i4 particularly when it comes to the bass. I would try grabbing some Spinfit CP155 for wide and long iem nozzles because it doesn’t sound like they are fitting correctly. Although comfort could definitely go to the timeless as the hooks certainly aren’t for everybody and they are quite large but sonically the i4 should be running laps around the timeless especially in terms or soundstage, separation and overall resolution.I've been messing with EQs and I turned the Audeze plugin i4 preset in Roon. They got better-- for sure. I still think the Timeless sounds faster through decay, smoother and more extended through the bass, and more intimate in the mids, plus they're a whole lot more comfortable. But at least the i4's are listenable now-- a bit warmer than the Timeless. I'll play with more eq settings to see if I can make further improvements-- basically look like you need to do a huge dip at 1k and a hefty push around 4k, then dial in the bass and treble to your liking. That's one massive eq shift to get these things sounding OK.
It may be these things need to burn in some. Just trying to think it through. The bass is thicker on the LCD, but it doesn't have the punch and speed of the Timeless. There's more texture to the bass on the Timeless. I'm going to play with them more-- by God-- I spent the money! LOL. There are worse problems to have, I suppose.The i4 were (don’t know about still are) the lowest distortion driver on the market and so they are essentially made for EQ. Unfortunate that it is the case but to get to their potential it is basically a requirement which is a shame. To me it still sounds like something is wrong. I had the timeless and none of the categories you mentioned above does the Timeless even touch the i4 particularly when it comes to the bass. I would try grabbing some Spinfit CP155 for wide and long iem nozzles because it doesn’t sound like they are fitting correctly.
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Haha that is for sure. Good luck to you! I would definitely give those tips and Crinacles EQ profile a try.It may be these things need to burn in some. Just trying to think it through. The bass is thicker on the LCD, but it doesn't have the punch and speed of the Timeless. There's more texture to the bass on the Timeless. I'm going to play with them more-- by God-- I spent the money! LOL. There are worse problems to have, I suppose.
What is the ideal portable/ pairing for these? I have these currently paired with ES100 (also EQ'd) but pretty sure I'm going to grow over it, and would need something with more power. I finally need to raise the bar to feel the depths of The Who by Baba O'Riley. Help!
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I typically use mine at my desktop or running balanced out of my Qudelix but they definitely deserve something better when I am on the go so I am curious as well. Just nice that the Qudelix has the EQ.What is the ideal portable/ pairing for these? I have these currently paired with ES100 (also EQ'd) but pretty sure I'm going to grow over it, and would need something with more power. I finally need to raise the bar to feel the depths of The Who by Baba O'Riley. Help!
True. They most definitely deserve something better. ES100 and Qudelix are almost similar in power. I haven't tried them with desktop, do you feel a massive difference?I typically use mine at my desktop or running balanced out of my Qudelix but they definitely deserve something better when I am on the go so I am curious as well. Just nice that the Qudelix has the EQ.
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Big time. They don’t necessarily need a lot of voltage but they need a lot of current which I don’t think the Qudelix can provide particularly for transients.True. They most definitely deserve something better. ES100 and Qudelix are almost similar in power. I haven't tried them with desktop, do you feel a massive difference?
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