Jun 17, 2022 at 8:32 AM Post #5,491 of 7,070
Please do not say that. I really do not have any idea what I am doing and am trying to figure it out like others out there.

Plus, I realized the tests on Youtube are inconsistent. A couple of them I could hear to near 15k and others only to 13k.

I’d never trust the ones on YouTube. Last night I remembered there were some tone tests tracks on Tidal (on an album I used to program and verify my I2S pin outs) I used those those. 14k was as accurate as I’m going to get without seeing an audiologist
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 9:52 AM Post #5,492 of 7,070
I’d never trust the ones on YouTube. Last night I remembered there were some tone tests tracks on Tidal (on an album I used to program and verify my I2S pin outs) I used those those. 14k was as accurate as I’m going to get without seeing an audiologist
Just Google Tone Generator. It's about near perfect, just turn the volume down to like 2%, since it outputs at max digital output.
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 4:08 PM Post #5,496 of 7,070
I’d never trust the ones on YouTube. Last night I remembered there were some tone tests tracks on Tidal (on an album I used to program and verify my I2S pin outs) I used those those. 14k was as accurate as I’m going to get without seeing an audiologist

Very interesting and glad you brought that to my attention.


Just Google Tone Generator. It's about near perfect, just turn the volume down to like 2%, since it outputs at max digital output.

Thanks. If this is really accurate, i'm surprised my hearing isn't much worse over the years of clubbing/raving.


YIKES!

I know I have lost high frequencies over time but not as low as I found today. Not too excited about using hearing aids or with headphones.

Same. Very unsettling and sorry to read. A good reminder to be more cautious in the future. I was able to hear up to 14.7k, over 15k if I raised the volume.

Very eye opening in how big a role this plays in the differences we hear. That difference in the 10k+ region is enough for me to realize if one is limited, this could change the perception of many aspects of certain qualities such as being bright or airy or not enough. This could tilt the profile of sound to me, leading me to believe if I was bothered by the effects of the higher frequencies, I imagine that lower volume would lead to lower sense of bass and why some prefer more a shelf and vice versa.


I have exactly the same TT2, LCD 5, and Meze copper and silver, the meze cable is much better than the one that comes with the LCD 5, I don't like the Audeze cable, I have it connected to my LCD 3.

LCD-5's copper cable is kind of dark sounding for me. Doesn't match Meze Elite as well as airy in treble area seems lacking. A linear and detail silver cable is way to go.

Thanks for the cable insights. Not quite ready to take the plunge on a pure silver cable as it's just too cost prohibitive at the moment in comparison to just a tweak of eq like my testing found.
 
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Jun 17, 2022 at 8:25 PM Post #5,497 of 7,070
I have exactly the same TT2, LCD 5, and Meze copper and silver, the meze cable is much better than the one that comes with the LCD 5, I don't like the Audeze cable, I have it connected to my LCD 3.
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My Meze cable goes from the LCD 5s to the Meze Elites, it sound great on the TT2!!
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 11:44 PM Post #5,498 of 7,070
Very eye opening in how big a role this plays in the differences we hear. That difference in the 10k+ region is enough for me to realize if one is limited, this could change the perception of many aspects of certain qualities such as being bright or airy or not enough. This could tilt the profile of sound to me, leading me to believe if I was bothered by the effects of the higher frequencies, I imagine that lower volume would lead to lower sense of bass and why some prefer more a shelf and vice versa.
There's precious little real musical content above 10Khz anyway, it's all weird odd harmonics and noise from percussion up there.
 
Jun 18, 2022 at 12:18 AM Post #5,500 of 7,070
There's precious little real musical content above 10Khz anyway, it's all weird odd harmonics and noise from percussion up there.

That’s good cause I’m WAY below 10Khz 😳

Oh man... I hope it's really just a bunch of gibberish up there then.

Just for comparison, it's about 5db difference from Sus from the looks of it. Never tried that much but am going to.


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Jun 18, 2022 at 12:53 AM Post #5,501 of 7,070
Debating LCD5 or Utopia. I’m not really an EQ person, I hate the thought of doing it TBH. Is the LCD5 Ok without EQ, or am I better of with the play and forget Utopia ? Music is rock, pop, heavy metal , punk etc so very much a hard hitting and propulsive sound is a must….
 
Jun 18, 2022 at 1:44 AM Post #5,502 of 7,070
Debating LCD5 or Utopia. I’m not really an EQ person, I hate the thought of doing it TBH. Is the LCD5 Ok without EQ, or am I better of with the play and forget Utopia ? Music is rock, pop, heavy metal , punk etc so very much a hard hitting and propulsive sound is a must….
I like them without EQ but a lot of people prefer EQ. It's nice to have the option.
 
Jun 18, 2022 at 1:49 AM Post #5,503 of 7,070
Debating LCD5 or Utopia. I’m not really an EQ person, I hate the thought of doing it TBH. Is the LCD5 Ok without EQ, or am I better of with the play and forget Utopia ? Music is rock, pop, heavy metal , punk etc so very much a hard hitting and propulsive sound is a must….

It depends on who you ask. I thought it was ok. I am not a fan of stock though. If you're allergic to eq... might want to look elsewhere. Some really enjoy it stock. I believe it's all in how you hear.

Here are a couple reviews:

Looking back, even vsg28 measured darker in treble.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/audeze-lcd-5-planar-magnetic-headphones/5.html

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/audeze-lcd-5-review-measurements-interview.959808/post-16981708

As jb77 ranked in his review, 6 stock and 9 with peq is how i'd rank them too. But, after convolution this is a 10 for me. I have no need or desire for any other headphone experience at the moment.
 
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Jun 18, 2022 at 4:39 AM Post #5,504 of 7,070
Debating LCD5 or Utopia. I’m not really an EQ person, I hate the thought of doing it TBH. Is the LCD5 Ok without EQ, or am I better of with the play and forget Utopia ? Music is rock, pop, heavy metal , punk etc so very much a hard hitting and propulsive sound is a must….
Hey seadog. Bengineer from SNA. I think LCD5 needs EQ mate. Its too shouty without. Stock tuning the Utopia is more agreeable.
 
Jun 18, 2022 at 6:24 AM Post #5,505 of 7,070
Hey seadog. Bengineer from SNA. I think LCD5 needs EQ mate. Its too shouty without. Stock tuning the Utopia is more agreeable.
I agree with this. But here's my way of looking at it: you are spending thousands to get the best sound you can, so spending a little effort to set up EQ so that the headphone you get sounds much better than it would have otherwise is more than worth it. There's no reason to be afraid of EQ, it doesn't bite!
 

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