jlbrach
Headphoneus Supremus
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3 yrs for drivers
I, too, had this issue with the larger over-the-ear headphones. It's important to get large HPs positioned correctly ... you can hear the difference.I've been a bit neurotic if my cup placement is correct on my ears so I tried to find the sweet spot. It takes 4 clicks for my ear to touch from the top to touch the bottom of the ear cup. Sadly it's an even number so I opted for two clicks from the bottom.
Just make sure If you buy them used they still have a warranty on them......the drivers are $1,200 for the pair. Now as far as buying new I think unless you really plan on sticking with them for a long time to ask the dealer for a discount. Pretty much all will give one. Like I said in my previous post the resale on these is approaching only 50%, considerable, because of the cost.I bought the list-price new LCD-4 from Audez'e to get the full warranty. Too many driver failures on planar magnetic headphones.
Just my modus operandi on the high-end gear
The original LCD-4 were 100-ohm drivers and subject to a high failure rate.The LCD4 is an absolute sound killer, top to bottom.
I currently own the venerable LCD2rev2. I tried several others audeze (LCD3, LCD2F, ...) but none impressed me more than the LCD2rev2.
Till I tried the LCD4; Damn this one is really good. I had one borrowed to my Hi-Fi store. But I add a driver failure just after I move the LCD4 on my head.
So yes the LCD4 is great but still very fragile so you better have a full warranty.
Ugh ... not cool.Yes but according to my vendor it was the last version and it was few month ago...
What, if I may ask, is a BakoonSharing here my impressions now that I got the 800s and he1k in the same setup.
Ranking:
LCD 4 straight- everything LCD 4 Bakoon is but catches more air and speed
LCD 4 Bakoon - fuller, more open than he1k Bakoon, more resolving
He1k Bakoon - needs Bakoon big time for a fuller sound but the overall sound sounds like a Hugo 1.
He1k straight - thin
I tried the 800s but after what was no more than 10 mins I had ear fatigue that came with a slightly dull ear pain that lasted for 50 mins. The Bakoon gave the 800s amazing ear thumping bass quantity but the 4 was better in every way.
Oddly, for over a year, I was always dreaming of trying the 800s and he1k coz I had good positive reactions with them in a store or a meet-up but I was still spending my funds on source and accessories. Today was a long time waiting of trying all the 4, 3, 800s and he1k together I am super surprised my memory and sentiments with the 800s and he1k didn't hold up to my current chain. It brings more respect on the scalability of the 4 coz it was initially meh but on my multi-stage power filtering chain, it soared to the top. Meanwhile, he1k and 800s seemed to hit it ceiling quickly.
I was expecting a scenario of complimentary headphones but the 4, IMHO, beats both of em in every segment. A possibility is the cable factor but the difference is too big that I'm estimating a cable upgrade is not enough for both units to catch up.
Ugh ... not cool.
What, if I may ask, is a Bakoon
The original LCD-4 were 100-ohm drivers and subject to a high failure rate.
Audez'e recognized the problem and changed the drivers to 200-ohms sometime later (I don't know when). The result was much better reliability.
Maybe the "compression effect" creates enough air pressure so that the nano-milimeter thin driver foil rips in two?I wonder if failures can be caused by dropping (accidentally) the drivers onto the ears, so a compression kind of situation? I was thinking the felt like material behind the cups in the 200 ohm version was to negate that effect.
Totally guessing.
I remember the Stax fast thing and also on Stax 007 or 009s you could here the panels crinkle if you compressed the panels to your ears.
If we have a typical cone on a speaker, it is not so hot pushing the cones in hard for example. I wonder if that is an issue on all HPs.
Thoughts?