[endlesswaves]

I'm a bit sensitive to peaks, as I said i'm used to oppo pm3 where treble is rolled off, aggressive presentation is not fo me and I don't listen for such music. My oldies spoiled me with sweet midrange I was not able to find such in any headphone that I had a chance to listen. Local shops here have either beats, bowers wilikens, senheiser for high end, even some senheiser sound impressive on first go I know I would get tired of this analytical sound. More into warm and mellow signature

electronic music i mean not dnb/techno and etc, its more of an old school synth/mixed with acoustics. If it's worth it for a flagship I could stretch unless they need to be attached to power house than a no go for me. These would go to chord hugo. I don't mind if it's used or new

LCS2C sounds nice with this.

 

[betula]

I have to say the LCD2C sub-bass is unreal regardless the price range. This sub-bass linearity, dynamics and punch is pretty much as good as it gets. Some 2-3K headphones don't have the sub-bass performance of the Audeze 2C. Of course flagship headphones slaughter the 2C when it comes to realism, resolution, spaciousness, or lifelike and airy treble combined with realistic vocals; but man, the 2C stands its own when it comes to bass performance, especially sub-bass punch.
The gigantic Audeze drivers may be extra heavy, but the 106mm sends bass waves to your brain that are unparalleled. If you are a true bass connoisseur, you might prefer the 2C to some of the more expensive and more realistic sounding, objectively higher quality headphones.

 

[angelus55]

would the lcd x be an upgrade from my lcd2 classics iyo? would be natural step up if want a better version os the lcd2 classics?

i am not looking for a major sound change as i love my lcd2 classics, but i want around the same or a bit more bass amount, while with having a tiny bit more treble, and i dont really have a preference for the mids, so around the same would be fine, and better sound stage and imaging if possible

i use my headphones as my primary and only audio source, so for music like edm (like the group above and beyond mostly for that type of edm) and all media from movies/shows/anime, to video games as video games is my biggest hobby

i am also considering the zmf auteur, as i have read a bunch on that already and i think i would like that a lot, but i have not read much about the lcd x yet so thats why i am asking here

 

[ivanost]

Has anyone tried the closed back variant of these (elegantly titled the LCD-2 Closed Back, or LCD2CB). I'm weighing the two; I'd prefer the isolation, but a really nice soundstage might tip the balance. Likewise, bass response; I've heard really conflicting things about the LCD2CB's low end - there seem to be two camps, one calling them basshead cans and another calling them neutral, and I have yet to be able to find a way to reconcile the two completely incompatible descriptions.

 

[ivanost]

(Another me question - I'm curious how these compare to the RHA CL2, my only other foray into the planar magnetic world; I tried switching back to the dynamic drivers on the Fostex TH-X00 and found them deeply unsatisfying, wishy washy and faraway and abstract, a different species entirely from the little world these planar magnetic drivers construct around your head. Curious if these LCD-2Cs have a similar, eerie feeling of realism.)

 

[MacMan31]

r/headphoneporn.

Is that mesh or foam piece behind the grill something that I can buy? I just received a pair of these and I have the older foam piece. Also if I were to replace the pads with different ones and then later want to swap back do i have to more adhesive?

 

[gargani]

Has anyone tried the closed back variant of these (elegantly titled the LCD-2 Closed Back, or LCD2CB). I'm weighing the two; I'd prefer the isolation, but a really nice soundstage might tip the balance. Likewise, bass response; I've heard really conflicting things about the LCD2CB's low end - there seem to be two camps, one calling them basshead cans and another calling them neutral, and I have yet to be able to find a way to reconcile the two completely incompatible descriptions.

I find my Philips Fidelio x2 and Senn. Hd 6xx to have more bass than the lcd2c.
I'm talking about quantity not quality. Thex2 have a bass hump somewhere between 50hz and 150 Hz.
The hd 6xx have a broad hump somewhere between 100hz and 250hz.
The lcd2c are flat or linear with no dips or humps, the level or quantity of bass is lower in level than the other two over all.
The bass is tight, controlled, and linear. More so than the other 2 headphones.
I would fall in the neutral camp.
The x2 is more the bass head cans of open backs.

 

[Slaphead]

would the lcd x be an upgrade from my lcd2 classics iyo? would be natural step up if want a better version os the lcd2 classics?

i am not looking for a major sound change as i love my lcd2 classics, but i want around the same or a bit more bass amount, while with having a tiny bit more treble, and i dont really have a preference for the mids, so around the same would be fine, and better sound stage and imaging if possible

i use my headphones as my primary and only audio source, so for music like edm (like the group above and beyond mostly for that type of edm) and all media from movies/shows/anime, to video games as video games is my biggest hobby

i am also considering the zmf auteur, as i have read a bunch on that already and i think i would like that a lot, but i have not read much about the lcd x yet so thats why i am asking here

Try EQ before blowing your money on something expensive that may not make as much difference as you might think. If all you want is a tiny bit more treble then a quick EQ adjustment should sort that out, as long as you're happy with what the rest of the headphone has to offer.

 

[Davesrose]

Has anyone tried the closed back variant of these (elegantly titled the LCD-2 Closed Back, or LCD2CB). I'm weighing the two; I'd prefer the isolation, but a really nice soundstage might tip the balance. Likewise, bass response; I've heard really conflicting things about the LCD2CB's low end - there seem to be two camps, one calling them basshead cans and another calling them neutral, and I have yet to be able to find a way to reconcile the two completely incompatible descriptions.

I have the LCD2CB. I find them to have well controlled bass, and are my everyday closed back headphone. You probably are seeing different responses about whether they are neutral or bassy because of differences in preference/genre, equipment used, etc. Though I wouldn't say they are "basshead" headphones. Bass is present and goes deep, but I equate "basshead" phones to really accentuate bass.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I have the LCD2CB. I find them to have well controlled bass, and are my everyday closed back headphone. You probably are seeing different responses about whether they are neutral or bassy because of differences in preference/genre, equipment used, etc. Though I wouldn't say they are "basshead" headphones. Bass is present and goes deep, but I equate "basshead" phones to really accentuate bass.

They are Bass connosoir headphones.
Extreme high quality Bass but linear Progression down to 20Hz.

 

[freq351]

Hi, new owner of these with question.

I'm enjoying the clarity and improved treble, but the warmth in bass that I had on my previous DT-990 Pro's is gone. What's the best way of getting that back? EQ? Different pads or something else? Or have I purchased the wrong headphones?

I listen through a PC audio interface (Edirol FA66), to a lot of electronic music. The DT990-Pros handled this music well in the low end, providing a nice warm foundation of bass.

With electronic dance music, for me the idea is to replicate the sonic atmosphere of a live dance music festival, right in the sweet spot on the dance floor. Here, the sound is warm as hell. That could be combination of reasons, including all the bodies absorbing the sound waves. So it makes perfect sense to at least want a nod in this direction for the headphones listening enjoyment. I'm not that up to speed on audio tech, but I read things like "don't use EQ"... but I may have to?

 

[ThanatosVI]

Hi, new owner of these with question.

I'm enjoying the clarity and improved treble, but the warmth in bass that I had on my previous DT-990 Pro's is gone. What's the best way of getting that back? EQ? Different pads or something else? Or have I purchased the wrong headphones?

I listen through a PC audio interface (Edirol FA66), to a lot of electronic music. The DT990-Pros handled this music well in the low end, providing a nice warm foundation of bass.

With electronic dance music, for me the idea is to replicate the sonic atmosphere of a live dance music festival, right in the sweet spot on the dance floor. Here, the sound is warm as hell. That could be combination of reasons, including all the bodies absorbing the sound waves. So it makes perfect sense to at least want a nod in this direction for the headphones listening enjoyment. I'm not that up to speed on audio tech, but I read things like "don't use EQ"... but I may have to?

I'm not familiar with the dt1990, never seen them with "warm bass" in one sentence before tho.
You certainly can try EQ, in an attempt to replicate what you're looking for.

Most EQs come with an overall loss in sound quality, thats why you read "don't use EQ" so often.

The schiit Loki worked perfectly for me without loss in SQ.
Many reported that the parametric EQ of the USB Audio Player Pro is also quite good( I never tried that one myself tho)

The Problem with both is, they are not free.
And all other EQs I know of, degrade the sound in some way. Nonetheless you should try them before returning the headphones, after all audio is a very subjective Hobby

 

[betula]

I find my Philips Fidelio x2 and Senn. Hd 6xx to have more bass than the lcd2c.
I'm talking about quantity not quality. Thex2 have a bass hump somewhere between 50hz and 150 Hz.
The hd 6xx have a broad hump somewhere between 100hz and 250hz.
The lcd2c are flat or linear with no dips or humps, the level or quantity of bass is lower in level than the other two over all.
The bass is tight, controlled, and linear. More so than the other 2 headphones.
I would fall in the neutral camp.
The x2 is more the bass head cans of open backs.

The so-called bass-head cans are usually closed back as none of the open back dynamic headphones are able to reach as low as open planars or closed dynamics, not even something like the Utopia. It is just physics.
Closed back design has its serious limitations, cup reverb is difficult to deal with. (Moving air can't naturally leave the cup but its reflected back to the driver causing potential distortion and unwanted effects.)

For this reason some open back dynamic headphones (and a few planars to a smaller extent) accentuate mid-bass to sound more fun and bassy. The Fidelio X2 is a prime example as you said.
Planars in general have a more linear sound as due to the planar transducer they (most of them) reach down to 20-30Hz effortlessly. This gives such a foundation to the bass, that exaggerating mid-bass somewhat becomes unnecessary.
The 2C indeed has a smaller quantity of bass compared to many headphones with an elevated mid-bass tuning (X2, X00). But the enjoyment of the sub-bass region will be something new and you might learn you don't actually need that emphasised mid-bass.
If you do need it however, or at least sometimes you want more bass quantity, use an amp/DAC that makes it possible. (Ifi Micro iDSD, RME ADI2 DAC or just a Loki). If you add 2db extra to planar bass like 2C it will demolish any 'bass-head' open back dynamic headphones in this regard.

Another thing I would like to point out that different amps and DACs may affect the perceived bass quantity even without any additional bass tuning. Some gear may drive a planar headphone loud enough, but it is still not driven adequately. One of the most obvious signs of a not well driven planar is weak and rolled off bass.

 

[jmills8]

The so-called bass-head cans are usually closed back as none of the open back dynamic headphones are able to reach as low as open planars or closed dynamics, not even something like the Utopia. It is just physics.
Closed back design has its serious limitations, cup reverb is difficult to deal with. (Moving air can't naturally leave the cup but its reflected back to the driver causing potential distortion and unwanted effects.)

For this reason some open back dynamic headphones (and a few planars to a smaller extent) accentuate mid-bass to sound more fun and bassy. The Fidelio X2 is a prime example as you said.
Planars in general have a more linear sound as due to the planar transducer they (most of them) reach down to 20-30Hz effortlessly. This gives such a foundation to the bass, that exaggerating mid-bass somewhat becomes unnecessary.
The 2C indeed has a smaller quantity of bass compared to many headphones with an elevated mid-bass tuning (X2, X00). But the enjoyment of the sub-bass region will be something new and you might learn you don't actually need that emphasised mid-bass.
If you do need it however, or at least sometimes you want more bass quantity, use an amp/DAC that makes it possible. (Ifi Micro iDSD, RME ADI2 DAC or just a Loki). If you add 2db extra to planar bass like 2C it will demolish any 'bass-head' open back dynamic headphones in this regard.

Another thing I would like to point out that different amps and DACs may affect the perceived bass quantity even without any additional bass tuning. Some gear may drive a planar headphone loud enough, but it is still not driven adequately. One of the most obvious signs of a not well driven planar is weak and rolled off bass.

The Abyss hits harder in the bass region than any closed back bass headphone. Also the Final Audio D8000 Pro not only hits harder than close back headphones but it is cleaner.

 

[betula]

The Abyss hits harder in the bass region than any closed back bass headphone. Also the Final Audio D8000 Pro not only hits harder than close back headphones but it is cleaner.

I could have brought these sort of examples to the mix too, but thought it is not that useful to compare TOTL 5K headphones to low/mid fi range of Fidelios and 2Cs.