Audeze EL-8: The EL-8 is a must-hear at CES 2015
Mar 10, 2016 at 5:36 AM Post #5,868 of 6,486
After many many more hours on my open EL-8s, I can conclude that they do beat my ADAM A7s in terms of precision and transient response, and by quite a mile too.  My perfect reference song for this is Rascal Flatts - Forever, at 1:02 you'll hear the drums kick in.  With the Mojo + open EL-8s, you hear each transient and bass note extremely precisely, the sound is very precise.  My ADAM A7s through the Mojo by comparison sound a little blurry and mushy.  Now to be fair, I no longer have a treated room so that would definitely contribute, but it's still apparent that the EL-8s and planar technology can reproduce transients in a superior way.
 
I auditioned a store's open EL-8s against the LCD-3 and LCD-X on Monday and at least at the store, the LCD-3 and LCD-X really blew away the open EL-8s, while the LCD-2s were pretty much in the same ballpark.  But honestly, when I came home, I listened to the same songs and couldn't hear some of the problems I heard at the store.  The store I tried them at had a pre-production pair of EL-8s and I wonder if they happen to be inferior to the final production version.
 
I would ideally love to borrow a pair of LCD-X or 3s for a few days to listen to in my own home but I don't know anywhere in Melbourne, Australia that does this.
 
The biggest problem with the LCD range though, is the comfort and weight.  There's huge pressure at the top of your head and I did leave the store with a headache.  But the headband on the EL-8s for me is extremely comfortable, in fact overall, I now find the EL-8s very comfortable and often wear them for hours without any problem.  I can't imagine doing that with the LCDs though :frowning2:
 
Mar 10, 2016 at 9:12 AM Post #5,869 of 6,486
Which is better in terms of sound quality, the LCD-2 Ver.1 or EL-8 open?

....the LCD-2s had a bit more bottom end and width at the expense of a little neutrality (it was pulled back more than the EL-8).


I would apply that part of Zambz's comments above that I quoted, even to my Ver.1 of the LCD-2, but I would also add, that at least in my main system, the LCD-2 scales significantly better. This is very noticeable, especially with large scale symphonic music and Rock music, where there is a lot more more apparent space between the instruments with the LCD-2, to my ears, and the orchestra/band is further away. Depending on the type of music you listen to though, this may not be an important issue for you. I also would assume, although I haven't auditioned them, that the current version of the LCD-2 would be even better in most respects, than my 2010 Ver.1.

The desktop setup I used to compare my LCD-2 with the EL-8 open, was a MacBook Pro, running Amarra for Tidal>RWA Isabellina LFP-V>LCD-2/EL-8.

In a portable setup, I have tried my EL-8 open out of an iPhone 5, with a Fostex HP-P1 DAC/amp, and with a Pico Power amp. To my ears, the very neutral and revealing Fostex amp seems to brighten the sound of the EL-8 slightly, which for an already fairly neutral headphone, (at least compared to the LCD-2), does not appeal to me. The Pico Power amp, using the iPhone's internal DAC chip, obviously drives them better, but I am still very happy with the EL-8, just out of an iPhone 5. For me, the iPhone 5 volume settings are also more than enough to drive the EL8s to high enough volume levels, and I have never used the maximum volume level.

In summary, while I think the LCD-2 scales better than the EL-8, the El-8 open is a great addition to a portable headphones setup.
 
Mar 10, 2016 at 3:39 PM Post #5,871 of 6,486
@Ridleyguy you are only the second person I know of that has a RWA Isabellina although the one that my friend has is the HPA LFP-V.  One of the best sounding DAC/amps I've ever heard.  Told my friend if he ever sells it to let me know.
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Thanks for your kind words about the Isabellina DavidA. I was looking for an all in one solution when I started in this hobby back in 2010, and first heard the original version of the Isabellina at CanJam 2010, where it was being used by Sennheiser for their HD800, and by ALO Audio for the LCD-2. I believe at that CanJam that Audeze were using a Cavalli amp. for the LCD-2. I liked it, but I wanted a DAC/amp in one box.
 
Mar 12, 2016 at 5:53 AM Post #5,873 of 6,486
Mar 12, 2016 at 9:46 PM Post #5,879 of 6,486
I posted about part of this previously. I bought the closed EL8 from Moon Audio last year, received a black box. The top end was very harsh, after reading a few posts in this forum I gave them a couple hundred hours to calm down, they didn't. Contacted Audeze and received a white box replacement. The top end was much better, but there was an annoying crackling in both cans if I made any movement at all. Turn your head, yawn, any movement at all and it would happen. Much like the rustling leaves comparison to a bad tube. Contacted Audeze again and they say its air moving over the drivers and it shouldn't happen when playing audio. But it did. Received a third pair and the same thing happened. Asked Audeze for a refund and they agreed. Shipped the cans to Audeze only to receive a phone call stating they can't issue me a refund. That they are going to ship the cans back to me and I must work with Moon Audio on a refund. I am frustrated at this point and emailed the folks at Moon Audio explaining what happened, awaiting a response. I have read good things about Moon Audio and am hopeful they will work with me on this. But am disappointed with Audeze. Was looking for a good closed headphone to use at work and home, not to disturb those around me. As much as I love my LCD2's, I don't think I will be buying another Audeze product. Now considering the Fostex TH900 or JH Angie. 
 
Mar 13, 2016 at 12:48 AM Post #5,880 of 6,486
  As much as I love my LCD2's, I don't think I will be buying another Audeze product. Now considering the Fostex TH900 or JH Angie.

You know that the Fostex is not completely closed, it will leak some sound where the cup is attached to the frame, a little like a bass port.
 

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