[ScarlettD]

I still go for CD if it is my favorite albums. Having CD collection is a great thing to enjoy for me.

 

[justhavingfun]

I have close to 4000 LPs in my collection and still enjoys playing those ol'LPs in my turntable. It is my prefer method of listening to music. If I need little more convenience, my next choice is listening to CDs. And if I need music on the go, then I grab my iPod filled with ripped ALAC music files from my CDs. I have never bought any music in mp3 download yet. It might be different in the future but I am still going to buy my music in LPs and CDs until it is no longer available in that physical formats. So hopefully those LPs and CDs in physical formats will not die anytime soon, which I don't think it will be.

 

[Mad Max]

CDs obsolete?
Not quite yet, methinks. =]

Also, torrwnting FTW. lol

 

[adrift]

Yeah, I think they'll be obsolete in a couple years. Even brick and mortar record shops are disappearing left and right. I give it another 5 years before they're about as obsolete as vinyl. And saying vinyl is not obsolete seems a bit of a stretch to me. I love vinyl, don't get me wrong, and I realize that the demand for it is going up ever-so-slightly, but it'll never be a popular medium with the general public again. Mostly a novelty thing for most consumers I think. The only folks I know who take vinyl very seriously anymore is the underground punk scene that never really gave it up.

I have hundreds, maybe thousands of CDs. A couple years ago I came to the conclusion that it was just more hassle than it was worth. I went from buying half a dozen CDs every week to now about 1 cd every 6 months.

As for the used CD debate... how silly. I'm all for supporting the artist, but I think that's taking it a bit too far. I don't feel obliged to throw away my car and not sell it again when I want a new one, and I wouldn't expect someone to buy only new to support GM and Ford just because they need wheels.

Nother thing. And I know this is controvertible to some, but if an artist holds out an ultimatum like the Lily Allen example earlier in this thread where apparently she said something like: "there is little point in making music if the consumer no longer attaches a value to the product." (and by that she means financial value) then you know what, I'd rather she just not make the music anymore. I support the artists, but if profit is the motivation for making the music then I'd rather listen to someone else. Again, taking the punk scene as an example and the perspective I'm sort of coming from, if the bands I listened to did it for the money they would have all stopped making music long long ago. They do it for the love of the art or to share a message. Even on a fairly popular level you had bands like Fugazi who took a very DIY approach to crafting and promoting their music and refused to charge a certain amount for an album or a or concert ticket if they could help it, and yet they were still able to turn a profit and be successful.

Don't know. Just my 2cents

 

[Head_case]

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And saying vinyl is not obsolete seems a bit of a stretch to me. I love vinyl, don't get me wrong, and I realize that the demand for it is going up ever-so-slightly, but it'll never be a popular medium with the general public again. Mostly a novelty thing for most consumers I think. The only folks I know who take vinyl very seriously anymore is the underground punk scene that never really gave it up.

Not a stretch at all....just depends how athletic and flexible your thinking is

There is much in 'popular' culture which leaves me indifferent. Virtually most of the 'pop' music culture is included in that. I couldn't care less if those kinds of releases all went digital MP3 quality; like breeds like.

Why would you or anyone want Susan Boyle on vinyl LP?

Isn't the CD experience bad enough? Why would anyone want vinyl LPs to be a 'popular' medium? CD is far superior for some applications, including quiet passages of classical music. Vinyl LPs are the choice of releases for the indie band and purist of alt.rock music like Red House Painters (Sun Kil Moon's) Mark Kozelek; alternative psyche-folk singers like Marissa Nadler who specialise in releasing their music on vinyl. Their collector's market is completely cornered: they just cannot release enough albums on vinyl LP.

Let the popular artists all shaft themselves onto digital MP3 download while the rest of the musicians' artists and purists be condemned and accused of being elitists or snobs who insist on the quality of vinyl LPs

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I have close to 4000 LPs in my collection and still enjoys playing those ol'LPs in my turntable

Now that....is incredible! I can only dream of owning 400.....!

 

[adrift]

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Originally Posted by Head_case /img/forum/go_quote.gif Not a stretch at all....just depends how athletic and flexible your thinking is There is much in 'popular' culture which leaves me indifferent. Virtually most of the 'pop' music culture is included in that. I couldn't care less if those kinds of releases all went digital MP3 quality; like breeds like. Why would you or anyone want Susan Boyle on vinyl LP? Isn't the CD experience bad enough? Why would anyone want vinyl LPs to be a 'popular' medium? CD is far superior for some applications, including quiet passages of classical music. Vinyl LPs are the choice of releases for the indie band and purist of alt.rock music like Red House Painters (Sun Kil Moon's) Mark Kozelek; alternative psyche-folk singers like Marissa Nadler who specialise in releasing their music on vinyl. Their collector's market is completely cornered: they just cannot release enough albums on vinyl LP. Let the popular artists all shaft themselves onto digital MP3 download while the rest of the musicians' artists and purists be condemned and accused of being elitists or snobs who insist on the quality of vinyl LPs

Right on! My talk of vinyl being obsolete was in reply to some posts earlier in this thread where folks seemed to be debating that the vinyl format was not "obsolete". Now I'm assuming we're using the word "obsolete" loosely in this thread, as in no longer relevant to the mainstream (not altogether gone).

 

[aristos_achaion]

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Originally Posted by adrift /img/forum/go_quote.gif I love vinyl, don't get me wrong, and I realize that the demand for it is going up ever-so-slightly, but it'll never be a popular medium with the general public again.

The demand for vinyl was up 36% in 2009 (can't find the citation right now...I'll add it when I can), which is a lot more than ever so slightly. And really, how much of the stuff here on head-fi is popular with the general public?

Most people would consider spending $100 on a set of headphones ridiculous, let alone spending $300 and then buying a $500 amplifier and $300 DAC...and that wouldn't even be a high-end setup here.

 

[adrift]

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Originally Posted by aristos_achaion /img/forum/go_quote.gif The demand for vinyl was up 36% in 2009 (can't find the citation right now...I'll add it when I can), which is a lot more than ever so slightly. And really, how much of the stuff here on head-fi is popular with the general public? Most people would consider spending $100 on a set of headphones ridiculous, let alone spending $300 and then buying a $500 amplifier and $300 DAC...and that wouldn't even be a high-end setup here.

You think vinyl will be so popular that it will eventually exit the niche market? Do you honestly believe that the compact disk will hold the same sort of novelty status as vinyl in the future? For that matter, what about 8-track or cassette. I'm not too certain about any of that, but I'd probably bet against it.

 

[Palpatine]

I'm still buying CDs for all the reasons mentioned here. I love shopping in person for them, and online.

 

[adrift]

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Originally Posted by Palpatine /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm still buying CDs for all the reasons mentioned here. I love shopping in person for them, and online.

Its good you still have a place to go in person. At one time, here in middle America, we had 4 or 5 record shops (this including the ma and pop shops). We now have 1... only 1 record shop in town, and I don't think its looking good for them. They've changed names 3 or 4 times over the years and the stock of physical CDs is actually getting smaller as their stock of nick nack garbage grows.

Its sad... I worked at a couple record stores out of high school, back in the early-mid 90s... both gone now. One of them was an all vinyl record shop that had been here since the late 60s early 70s. Owned by Randy, an old hippy who closed the shop earlier this decade because there simply was no more demand... should have kept it open had he known that vinyl was making a comeback.

 

[scompton]

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Originally Posted by aristos_achaion /img/forum/go_quote.gif The demand for vinyl was up 36% in 2009 (can't find the citation right now...I'll add it when I can), which is a lot more than ever so slightly. And really, how much of the stuff here on head-fi is popular with the general public? Most people would consider spending $100 on a set of headphones ridiculous, let alone spending $300 and then buying a $500 amplifier and $300 DAC...and that wouldn't even be a high-end setup here.

As I posted before, 2008 vinyl was 2% of the market, so it's still tiny in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Head_case]

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Originally Posted by scompton /img/forum/go_quote.gif As I posted before, 2008 vinyl was 2% of the market, so it's still tiny in the grand scheme of things.

And in 2005, Apple Macs were 1% of the total computer market

Tiny in the grand scheme of things?! Quality over quantity. Anytime!

 

[Deep Funk]

Head Case, I second your opinion. Too bad I'm not rich when it comes to money.

 

[scompton]

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Originally Posted by Head_case /img/forum/go_quote.gif And in 2005, Apple Macs were 1% of the total computer market Tiny in the grand scheme of things?! Quality over quantity. Anytime!

You're dreaming if you think vinyl will get the same market share as Macs now have. And without Steve Jobs and the iPod, and Vista, I wonder if Macs would have 10% now.

BTW, iTunes accounts for 25% of all US music sales. That's much faster growth than both Mac and vinyl. And the 2% market share for vinyl doesn't include the illegal digital music trade. It would be less if that was counted.

I personally don't consider vinyl inherently better either. If the masters are the same, digital is better for me. I hate the pops and clicks on LPs. Vintage vinyl is compressed to eliminate the deep bass so the groove spacing can be closer.

 

[Head_case]

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Originally Posted by Deep Funk /img/forum/go_quote.gif Head Case, I second your opinion. Too bad I'm not rich when it comes to money.

I'm not loaded either! Otherwise I would have a set of Senn 800s

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You're dreaming if you think vinyl will get the same market share as Macs now have. And without Steve Jobs and the iPod, and Vista, I wonder if Macs would have 10% now.

You miss the point completely mate. It's not quantity I care for. It's quality I'm after. Quality

The rest of the world can have all the quantity; the fast free-flowing Macdonalds burgers; the cheap underwear imports whose dye leaches off on the body; the powdery toilet paper which costs less than $0.50 per roll......the 99% of the consumer junk and of course - the digital MP3 downloads

I'll settle with my Michel Gyrodec. Hell - the critics of vinyl LPs won't even know what these sound like with decent vinyl with a groove and needle which can move on a suspension platform to give deeper bass than anything digital noughts and ones can ever read. They'll be stone deaf to anything but the gentle crackles and pops of real organic music. Let them eat synthetic pop. Pop! Bop.