Almi's Logitech Z-5500 Mod (High-End upgrade for the speaker system)
Feb 18, 2017 at 1:14 AM Post #398 of 544
Obviously short circuit. Can be small, hard to detect.
Or misplaced mica insulator(s), solder drop, metal fragment, screw between the pins of the TDA AMP. Component installed the wrong way, left out, damaged, bad solder joint. Long list of possibilities....
If you find the mistake, you may need new resistors (or worst, regulators too) to make the system work again.
 
Feb 18, 2017 at 5:11 AM Post #399 of 544
Hello and thank you for your angagemang!
I've checked and all components are correctly fitted
Since
I have found a bad solder on a cable that goes to the right channel filter capacitors fixture that includes:
10000uF63V Elna for Audio
1000uF63V Elna
220uF63V Elna
100uF63V Elna
10uF63V Ero MKT
4,7uF63V Ero MKC
2.2uF100V Ero MKT
1uF63V Wima FMD
0.22uF 63V MKT
 But wonder if it can burn
both R21 and R22 resistor.

R21 to steady done "little" hole in the PCB
R22 is only burns
More info
Changed blown Logitech speakers with sub Pioneer TS-W261D4 ​​is two spolig 4ohm and brygat out between the plus and minus!
PreAmp panel I have changed ceramic capacitors with K73-160.22uF 160V is it ok?
The residue was used
1 pc. 4700UF 63V ELNA KENWOOD
13 pcs. 22UF 50V Elna Silmic II
6st. 47uF 50V Elna Silmic II
1st. 10uF 16V Elna Silmic II
12st. 0.22uF 63V MKT
1st. 1uF63V Wima MKS
2st TEXAS INSTRUMENTS - OPA1602AID - OP AMP, AUDIO, BIPOLAR, 8MS...
 
Kontrol pod, I purchased components not modat than
It was not cheap can not stop now and throw everything
SINCERELY
Cmiky
 
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 8:36 AM Post #400 of 544
"But wonder if it can burn both R21 and R22 resistor." When the filter capacitors have a bad contact you get hum, but If it was a hot ground problem..... I just do not know how the regulators behave without it.
"K73-16 0.22uF 160V is it ok?" It is.
 
Feb 28, 2017 at 10:27 AM Post #401 of 544
Hey!
I have been looking and looking for several days and finally I found a short circuit at the terminal of C32 47uF 50V kondensator.Det which is strange to short circcut was with removed  cap in the terminal itself, but I could not see with magnifying glass.Det disappeared that I put solder pen in the terminal C32.
Have a question before I test
Should there be contact on the PCB between the terminal for filter capacitors 10000uF (between minus C29 and Plus C30 )
 
Mar 5, 2017 at 8:19 AM Post #403 of 544
Ramachandra Hi!
I have found the short circuit, and now it's ok.
Regulators believe I'm ok
  78M18A input pin 1 is 31.4V, output pin 3 is 17.7V
  79M18A input pin 2 is -29V, output PIN3 is -18.1V.
Tried start without Pod, and it seemed ok = no smoke from the resistors or something else.
When I switched on the pod and speakers.
In the beginning was the noise from the sub. and nothing else.
Turned off !
Started again and there came no sound at all.
It is under tension, no smoke looks ok, but no sound
With what can I Bratta now?
Something suggestions?
Thank you for being kind
SINCERELY
Cmiky
 
Mar 5, 2017 at 5:59 PM Post #404 of 544
Few ideas:
Perhaps you can check the sound from the Pod with a headphone. If the OpAmps not getting what they need under the load, probably you gent no sound directly from the Pod. Because circuits in the Pod powered from 2 different sources. The +18V -18V is for the 11 OpAmps, the +8V is for the rest of the circuits in the Pod. Previously on this thread somewhere was mentioned, the burnt resistors was the source of complication, checked OK with the instruments, still it was not enough until replaced with new. Get the same size or bigger to be sure you are not under the necessary Watt.
Or. If nothing work you can improvise a Pod replacement cable to narrow down the possibilities. If let say as the result of the short circuit most (or all) of the OpAmps burnt out, and you had done the the third mod, the 0.47uF 63V capacitors will work and you supposed get sound from all speakers, except from the Sub. Or if you have not done it, try few new or the old OpAmps.
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 6:59 AM Post #405 of 544
I have two POD (a new one) and do not think that both are broken! But they tested at a friend who has an older Z5500 with coaxial speaker terminals in different color POD pid 526.De worked, both optical and direct, but only with stereo and stereox2 setting!
On my Z5500 nothing, but POD works with headphones!
Any idea?
 

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