rhythmdevils
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there are a million versions of k240, and some sound nothing alike, so it's better to figure out which version
Originally Posted by rwaudio /img/forum/go_quote.gif To be honest I probably enjoy how the HD650's "change/color/represent" the sound. I would have to say the 240's are much more natural with acoustic instruments. And the microdetail was wonderful, but the total package wasn't for me. The soundstage and feeling of the music (true or not) is more enjoyable with the HD650's. However I might have to pick up a set of 240's for amplifier design/testing they really are that good at what they do. |
Originally Posted by Adda /img/forum/go_quote.gif An amp is needed, without one the soundstange pretty much disappears, bass will be very poor and highs will be harsh. As for how they sound, search the forum, there are not many threads about the DF's and the more recent threads contain pretty good descriptions of them. |
Originally Posted by rwaudio /img/forum/go_quote.gif I would like to update some of the statements I made earlier. While the statments were honest I have an update that gives a more direct comparison of the HD650's vs K240's. I didn't mention before the impressions of the HD650 were of a balanced/recabled pair. The owner of the K240's allowed me to reterminate (stock cable) his pair for testing with a balanced portable amplifier. The transformation was nothing short of incredible. All of the things that I liked about the HD650, but the K240's were lacking came out and equaled or bettered the HD650's. The K240's retained the microdetail, and natural tone, while improving the bass extension and weight. Now instead of having a clear preference over the HD650's it's a coin toss. The extra detail in the K240's might put them over the top. If anyone is considering reterminating or recabling their K240's for a balanced setup go ahead and do it!! |
Originally Posted by Gossling /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thanks for the reply. But I still have no idea how much I'll have to spend on an amp to do the k240df justice. Would the headphone output of a stereo reciever/preamplifier do the job? I am willing to buy used. I suppose I would be willing to try a DIY, but I have never tried before so it may not be the wisest idea. Would the SSH Millet suffice (where do I find the actual instructions to build this...is there some definitive generic guide I don't know about)? |
Originally Posted by Adda /img/forum/go_quote.gif While this is all very interesting and helpful information, it has limited use without knowing witch K240 you are talking about. Edit: You say it says 4-600 Ohms on them, as far as I can figure out, that makes them a pair of K240 Sextett, they are quite different from K240DF's. Sextett = Lush and musical sounding (from what I have read) DF = Analytic and neutral. |
Originally Posted by rwaudio /img/forum/go_quote.gif I came up with the same conclusion, I'm pretty sure the pair I was using was the Sextett and not the DF. Sorry for dragging the thread off course. I would imagine that the DF would also benifit from a balanced setup though, and if looking for a new amp it might be a direction to go for. |
Originally Posted by Adda /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah me too, and the DT48 as well. |
Originally Posted by DKY /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hello I can help out here. I just joined getting back into the Hifi craze after a bit of a hiatus. The K240 that RWAUDIO is referencing is a K240LP Sextett. I purchased these phones new back in 83 or so. Re-terminating them to balanced and using his balanced prototype amplifier was nothing short of total musical transformation. I have liked these phones for so long as they have always been true to the music and allowed the micro-dynamics and musical articulation to come though effortlessly. The balanced mod basically paired my two favourite speakers for different reasons. The Verity Audio Parsifal which I did own and the Wilson Watt Puppies 7.1 which I wish I could have owned. Had to pick one! The phones are incredibly musical with extremely good transient response and micro-dynamics persevered with the macro-dynamics as well now. The bass presentation now is very articulate with the character of each instrument preserved and weighted great within the context of the musical piece. The whole midrange has more presence without the glare or artificial sibilance. The whole presentation opened up. Hope I helped some for my first post |
Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif You should mention the model. The DT48a was never meant for music, and thus has audiophile flaws many can't live with. The 240DF are most def an under appreciated classic. AKG was dumb to discontinue them, replacing them with a inferior product. |
Originally Posted by Gossling /img/forum/go_quote.gif How is the isolation/leakage on the K240df? Fine for library usage? |