ACTIVO P1 Digital Audio Player - Coming Soon

[fish1050]

The delay to pushing out firmware updates is due to our HQ upgrading our OTA servers. I expect updates for all devices to start rolling out before the end of the month. I asked for an update and will update you once the team is back in the office on Monday.

So why can't you provide manual firmware updates? Owners wouldn't have to wait forever for this OTA server update if they could simply download and manually install firmware updates. I have wifi issues due to local conditions right now and have to use ethernet connections so part of the reason I moved on from the P1 is I can't do manual firmware updates.

 

[rufus0910]

I can't help but feel this thread has destroyed my chances of selling my P1.. you all owe me money!!!

 

[Vamp898]

So why can't you provide manual firmware updates? Owners wouldn't have to wait forever for this OTA server update if they could simply download and manually install firmware updates. I have wifi issues due to local conditions right now and have to use ethernet connections so part of the reason I moved on from the P1 is I can't do manual firmware updates.

Because most users can't do that and brick their devices trying to do so.

 

[Nipper Reed]

Most people can do it. Its a simple task.

 

[rlw6534]

Most people can do it. Its a simple task.

Step 1 - copy firmware to root of internal storage.
Step 2 - install update from P1 settings

 

[Coastal Bluff]

The delay to pushing out firmware updates is due to our HQ upgrading our OTA servers. I expect updates for all devices to start rolling out before the end of the month. I asked for an update and will update you once the team is back in the office on Monday.

Thank you! I look forward to hearing from you about the coming update.

 

[Vamp898]

Step 1 - copy firmware to root of internal storage.
Step 2 - install update from P1 settings

Wrong. The first thing after copying it into the internal storage is checking the checksum to see if any errors occured during copying to not brick your device with an faulty firmware software. You do that two times. After download and after copying.

You see, that is why its done via OTA

 

[rlw6534]

Wrong. The first thing after copying it into the internal storage is checking the checksum to see if any errors occured during copying to not brick your device with an faulty firmware software. You do that two times. After download and after copying.

You see, that is why its done via OTA

Certainly not a bad idea, but Android actually strictly verifies update packages before installing so it's not really necessary.

 

[Vamp898]

Certainly not a bad idea, but Android actually strictly verifies update packages before installing so it's not really necessary.

One could think so, but AOSP contains nothing like this. There are only two official ways to upgrade AOSP/Android

- ADB and the Preboot Environment (Manual Flashing)
- OTA

https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/virtual_ab

That means you either use OTA or you risk bricking your device (not kidding). You can implement this on your AOSP Fork on your own risk, but there is no official solution from the AOSP Developers for this.

 

[rlw6534]

One could think so, but AOSP contains nothing like this. There are only two official ways to upgrade AOSP/Android

- ADB and the Preboot Environment (Manual Flashing)
- OTA

https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/virtual_ab

That means you either use OTA or you risk bricking your device (not kidding). You can implement this on your AOSP Fork on your own risk, but there is no official solution from the AOSP Developers for this.

Understood. Technically though, installing from the system settings is an OTA, it's just that the file is manually copied over rather than downloaded. Manual flashing from the bootloader or EDL is a different animal and much more risky. My overall point is that A&K could indeed release firmware without the OTA servers and most of us could install it...

 

[mechHead631]

I did miss it and reading it, i know very well why.

Both are dead flat, neither the M23 nor the P1 is colored. Tested with two Studio Reference Monitors.

The FiiO M23 gives more volume, but both have enough power to make you deaf.

So if anyone is owning a big planar wondering if this is the right DAP, don't worry, it has more than enough power to drive hard to drive planars.

Hi. Recently purchased Audeze LCD-2C. Looking for DAP with baanced port for them. Don't want slow, laggy full-fledged android DAPs for them. I watched a few video and liked the form factor, size and UI of Activo P1. Would Activo P1 be enough to drive the LCD-2C?

 

[Vamp898]

Hi. Recently purchased Audeze LCD-2C. Looking for DAP with baanced port for them. Don't want slow, laggy full-fledged android DAPs for them. I watched a few video and liked the form factor, size and UI of Activo P1. Would Activo P1 be enough to drive the LCD-2C?

Absolutely, even on 3.5mm and low gain no issues.

 

[Nipper Reed]

Theres no way the Activo P1 will drive the LCD-2C anywhere near its capability using the 3.5mm jack on low gain. Even going balanced on high gain would be underpowered.

 

[Vamp898]

Theres no way the Activo P1 will drive the LCD-2C anywhere near its capability using the 3.5mm jack on low gain. Even going balanced on high gain would be underpowered.

Are we talking about the same Headphone? This one?

https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-2-classic

If so, I would not see why there should be an problem. I demoed it with the M11 Plus and the WM1ZM2 (which has even less power) and there were absolutely no issues, even on low gain.

I don't see a reason why the P1, having 2Vrms on SE, should have any issues whatsoever.

Unless you want to get deaf, then you need 4.4mm high gain

 

[mechHead631]

Theres no way the Activo P1 will drive the LCD-2C anywhere near its capability using the 3.5mm jack on low gain. Even going balanced on high gain would be underpowered.

Any numbers or user experience to back your claim? Just want to know if you personally tried it.