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Above & Beyond || FiiO 2019 Spring Launch Event || March 16 || Music Player || Amplifier || Earphones || Accessories

Discussion in 'Head-Fi Network & Industry News' started by FiiO, Feb 27, 2019.
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  1. jsmiller58
    Just trying to understand the perspective you are bringing... I don’t know the specs so I will pose the questions for you:

    Is internal storage, per GB, more or less expensive than card based storage?

    While internal storage has quicker access and bandwidth than external storage, is the performance difference noticeable in a DAP use model?
  2. jsmiller58
    When the opposite of your first statement is true - when it does have the music you want to listen to...
  3. jsmiller58
    Where is the +1000 button when you really need it?
  4. Brooko Contributor
    Not sure about the cost from a manufacturer POV - better for FiiO to answer. But I’ll explain my usage - which might help with understanding my reasoning.

    I’m very much an objectivist. A long time ago I measured my hearing ability (double blind abx tests) and discovered that for me aac256 was completely transparent. A group of us did the tests - including a young guy who could abx mp3 320 on a few killer tracks (Stax system + higher volume) but even aac256 defeated him. To this day using the same master volume matched I’ve found no-one who can differentiate aac256 from lossless when tested properly.

    So I archive FLAC but listen to aac256. Why? Because I can fit my approx 7K purchased track library on a single 64Gb card. So for me 128Gb onboard would give me wriggle room. Some people talk about 20K libraries - so 256Gb on board would cover them too.

    Advantages -
    1) look at the issues in threads - most of them come from dual slot scanning, dropping a card etc. onboard eliminates that
    2) reduces lag
    3) reduces time in adding tracks to library
    4) for me - allows my library in one place
    5) don’t have to worry about cards failing over time

    For my portable use it solves a lot of problems. It helps not being hung up on the container (FLAC, DSD etc). Allows me to concentrate on what is important - the actual version/mastering.
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  5. JRichardson1228
  6. jsmiller58
    OK, understand your point. I have never experienced a card failure, but I know they happen. I have always stored my offline music on an SD card and never felt any performance issues. I download music from Tidal and Qobuz on my LG v30 and never felt it was unacceptably slow to do so. But my experience is my own, and I understand where you are coming from better and respect that!
  7. Edric Li
    Yeah, and say you bought the M11 today. You really love it and see yourself living with it for quite a while. Now tell me you won't switch all your 2.5 to 4.4 for the extra sturdiness, and prevent the 2.5 socket from breaking?
  8. jsmiller58
    That really depends. I have quite a few IEMs and a lot (7) 2.5mm cables. I could see myself over time, as I bought new ones, replacing my 2.5mm cables with 4.4mm cables. But run out and replace them all now? Nah, not going to happen.

    You see, this is not a theoretical topic for me. I am expecting any day to receive my R6 Pro. The only balanced option for me is 4.4mm. I will have to live with adapters for a while. If I had known about the M11 at the time I ordered the R6 Pro, the broader support for connectors may have been a swing consideration.

    Point is that as individual consumers we all see things through our own lens. You see it your way, I see it mine, different because we have a different perspective and starting point. Neither of us is right or wrong. It is the vendor's job to find a way to make their product appealing to their target buyers. Hiby decided that their target buyers either have 4.4 connectors, or are willing to live with adapters. FiiO probably decided to differentiate themselves by making it easy by eliminating the need to make a decision.

    Anyway, sorry that you have to live with the presence of a jack you won't use, but I hope you are able to see that FiiO may have made a wise choice where others are concerned, even with some dissatisfaction on your part
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2019
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