[canali]

thanks for the help everyone...if we were at a bar I'd be ordering us tapas and a round of drinks.
 
I'll try to simplify: sorry for the previous long posts 

 
my gig is pretty simple... just have my one laptop...i'm downstairs using a wireless connection
(the hardwired modem/router to the internet is hardwired wired upstairs)
 
i have no NAS
(i guess my laptop is my NAS: has my tidal hifi, ripped cds etc.)
 
I also have a few DACS: mojo, df red, ifi micro idsd.
 
I'm going to get the uptone lps 1 power supply.
 
I will either get an ethernet jack installed downstairs or the power line mini conditioner my friend suggested:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/d-link-d-link-powerline-mini-starter-kit-dhp-309av-refurbished-dhp-309av-re/10405128.aspx?path=f5167475ee5d3db1886e86f9b066239aen02
 
questions
1/would I aslso need the sonore cardas DC 4 power cable or the USB adaptor?
 http://www.sonore.us/DC4.html
http://www.sonore.us/adapter.html
 
2/my friend is wondering if i'd also need one of the 2  iFi purifiers: usb or spdif  ?
(but i thought the microrendu has jitter related circuitry)
http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-spdif-ipurifier/
 
I already have the Ifi mercury cable and (USB) ipurifier 2.

 

[Superdad]

  thanks for the help everyone...if we were at a bar I'd be ordering us tapas and a round of drinks.
 
I'll try to simplify: sorry for the previous long posts 

 
my gig is pretty simple... just have my one laptop...i'm downstairs using a wireless connection
(the hardwired modem/router to the internet is hardwired wired upstairs)
 
i have no NAS
(i guess my laptop is my NAS: has my tidal hifi, ripped cds etc.)
 
I also have a few DACS: mojo, df red, ifi micro idsd.
 
I'm going to get the uptone lps 1 power supply.
 
I will either get an ethernet jack installed downstairs or the power line mini conditioner my friend suggested:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/d-link-d-link-powerline-mini-starter-kit-dhp-309av-refurbished-dhp-309av-re/10405128.aspx?path=f5167475ee5d3db1886e86f9b066239aen02
 
questions
1/would I aslso need the sonore cardas DC 4 power cable or the USB adaptor?
 http://www.sonore.us/DC4.html
http://www.sonore.us/adapter.html
 
2/my friend is wondering if i'd also need one of the 2  iFi purifiers: usb or spdif  ?
(but i thought the microrendu has jitter related circuitry)
http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-spdif-ipurifier/
 
I already have the Ifi mercury cable and (USB) ipurifier 2.

Hey Joe:
 
Why don't you just start simple and go from there?
 
The microRendu comes with a solid USB A>B adapter for direct connection of the microRendu to your DAC(s) for best signal integrity and impedance match.  The microRendu has a REGEN circuit (hub chip, careful clocking and impedance matching) built in, so you won't need or want to put anything between it and your DAC.
 
The UltraCap LPS-1 comes with a 27-inch, 16awg coax DC cable--with 5.5mm x 2.1mm plugs--which you will use between it and the microRendu.  If you feel like going for a fancier cable latter on you can.
 
Absolutely no place in your chain for the iFi S/PDIF cleaners since the output of the microRendu is USB straight into your DAC(s).
 
Sound good?  
 
It sure will!  

 
--Alex C.

 

[canali]

 
Hey Joe:
 
Why don't you just start simple and go from there?
 
The microRendu comes with a solid USB A>B adapter for direct connection of the microRendu to your DAC(s) for best signal integrity and impedance match.  The microRendu has a REGEN circuit (hub chip, careful clocking and impedance matching) built in, so you won't need or want to put anything between it and your DAC.
 
The UltraCap LPS-1 comes with a 27-inch, 16awg coax DC cable--with 5.5mm x 2.1mm plugs--which you will use between it and the microRendu.  If you feel like going for a fancier cable latter on you can.
 
Absolutely no place in your chain for the iFi S/PDIF cleaners since the output of the microRendu is USB straight into your DAC(s).
 
Sound good?  
 
It sure will!  

 
--Alex C.

 
as always, Alex, your help is appreciated....i wasn't as clear as i could be (obviously)
hey this LAN stuff is new to me.
 
but i think i still need some hardwired ethernet connection to the microrendu

 

[canali]

microrendu coming in today.
....ordered the uptone ultra cap lps1 today as well.

 

[pdickerson]

I know we all want to justify all the money we spend on audio.

If you could purchase a streamer like Aurender rather than the micro..... has anyone had second thoughts?

 

[joseph69]

Hi guys,
 
I'll be adding the mR/LPS-1 to my chain consisting of a MBP (JRiver MC21)>mR>Spring DAC. I understand the mR needs an Ethernet connection. My question is…should I connect my MBP to my router via Ethernet cable as well or go with the Wi-Fi connection to the MBP? My router is only 12' away from my rig with a double run of Ethernet cable. Which connection would be most preferable? 
 
 
Thank you

 

[TheAttorney]

Hi joseph69
 
I don't understand what value the mR is going to add to your MC21.
The full benefit of mR is that it can make use of the NAA end point features of HQ Player, or RoonReady feature of Roon.
I may have missed something, but JRiver does not have such a feature, so you're not going to get the full benefit of the mR.
 
Apart from that, I've used wifi to get from my Roon/HPQ laptop to router with full success. This sounded better to me than a low priced ethernet cable in the same situation, but YMMV with this sort of thing. However, there's a further consideration in the romaz direct bridge method, which I think has already been referenced. Edit: The key point of this direct bridge connection is that it allows the music player to connect directly to the mR via Ethernet (and in my case wirelessly to the router), such that you can get by with a single short Ethernet cable.  

 

[joseph69]

  Hi joseph69
 
I don't understand what value the mR is going to add to your MC21.
The full benefit of mR is that it can make use of the NAA end point features of HQ Player, or RoonReady feature of Roon.
I may have missed something, but JRiver does not have such a feature, so you're not going to get the full benefit of the mR.
 
Apart from that, I've used wifi to get from my Roon/HPQ laptop to router with full success. This sounded better to me than a low priced ethernet cable in the same situation, but YMMV with this sort of thing. However, there's a further consideration in the romaz direct bridge method, which I think has already been referenced. Edit: The key point of this direct bridge connection is that it allows the music player to connect directly to the mR via Ethernet (and in my case wirelessly to the router), such that you can get by with a single short Ethernet cable.  

The mR will work with JRiver (DLNA) so what I'm looking for is to use AoIP instead of a direct USB connection to my DAC.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your point in asking me "what value the mR is going to add to your JRiver MC21" could you please why this would be of no value to me?
 
Thank you,
Joseph

 

[canali]

  microrendu coming in today.
....ordered the uptone ultra cap lps1 today as well.

btw, this is a cool powerline if you have no ethernet connection near you (like my situation).
https://www.amazon.ca/TP-LINK-TL-PA9020P-KIT-Passthrough-Powerline/dp/B01H74VKZU
one of the better rated, came out a few months ago.
 
...of course 'real world' speed doesn't meet the advertised speed (2gb)
but from my readings (see articlse below) the higher rated ones still get better transfer rates.
 
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-powerline-networking-kit/
 
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/network-wifi/20-best-powerline-adapters-2017-uk-3490638/

 

[joseph69]

@MikeyFresh, 
 
Thank you for clarifying I can use JRiver/mR as I intended to.
I was extremely side tracked by @TheAttorney asking "what value the mR is going to add to your JRiver MC21" (and continue to be) until this could be explained as to why this was said? This is delaying my purchase of the mR as of right now.
 
Also, could you possibly give me some advise/experience to my original question as to which connection would be preferable to my MBP (Ethernet/Wi-Fi) while running JRiver/surfing the web?

 

[MikeyFresh]

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[TheAttorney]

  @MikeyFresh, 
 
Thank you for clarifying I can use JRiver/mR as I intended to.
I was extremely side tracked by @TheAttorney asking "what value the mR is going to add to your JRiver MC21" (and continue to be) until this could be explained as to why this was said? This is delaying my purchase of the mR as of right now.
 
Also, could you possibly give me some advise/experience to my original question as to which connection would be preferable to my MBP (Ethernet/Wi-Fi) while running JRiver/surfing the web?

I was not aware that JR could use DLNA, or even what DLNA is, so I can't comment on its effectiveness. Sorry to mislead you. My only eperience of the mR is with HQP and Roon,and with those the mR and LPS-1 are excellent..
 
However, my comments about handling the situation where potentally long ethernet cables are involved are still valid in general, even if I can't be sure they they are appropriate to your exact situation. More details of my set up were posted on the previosu page. Unfortunately I don't have time at the moment to elborate

 

[joseph69]

 

Thank you very much for your detailed reply and specifically answering my question.
I was specifically asking because of the common ground at the router if using Ethernet connections to both the MBP/mR.
 
I've made an offer to a seller here on the forums for the mR/LPS-1.
If we can't negotiate a fair price for both of us, I'm just going to purchase both new…very shortly.
 
Thanks again!
 

No need to apologize, it's all good.
I was just side tracked by your reply and couldn't understand why you said that… at least now I know why. 

 

 

[MikeyFresh]

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[joseph69]

  That common ground issue can be tough to predict or really know ahead of time whats involved or what any potential solution will bring. Suffice it to say the LPS-1 is a stellar add-on for the mRendu in every way.
 
Whether or not one also feels an Ethernet isolator improves things still further, or whether thats totally unnecessary becuase you love the sound via Wi-Fi is up for you to try.
 
I use an EMO Systems EN-70HD in between the AEx and mRendu, even though I have an LPS-1 I still feel the EN-70HD makes a further improvement to the sound. Whether anyone else gets that same result, or more importantly thinks it's worth the cost of admission, thats their own call to make.

I'm going to (and was going to) try both Ethernet/Wi-Fi connections, I just wanted to hear others experiences between the two and what was most preferable. Thanks for the tip on the EN-70HD which I will look into as well.