[musicman59]

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Langrex is hardly a secret: http://www.langrex.co.uk/
 
Incidentally, Langrex (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/LANGREX) and Colomor (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/COLOMOR-VALVES-TUBES-COMPONENTS) are located in the same village (Billingshurst) on opposite sides of the railway line.

 
I had a littl ebit sour experinece with Langrex once. I bought a pair of Mullard ECC33 from them. After I sold them a frined from the forum let me know that those tubes were not Mullard but Tungsram.
 
When I question Langrex they told me they were Mullard "export" tubes. Not after a lot more questioning and pressure they came out clean and accept they were really Tungsram.
 
Fortunatley they agreed to take them back and refund me.

 

[musicman59]

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Nice, thank you. Look forward to your impressions.

 
I made the comparison between the Ken-Rad BG V231 and the RCA GG V231. IMO the Ken-Rad has a more "V" shape sound curb comapred to the RCA. IMO the Ken-Rad wins in bass, the RCA in midrange and the RCA has a very slight advantagein high frequencies (being smoother).
 
Both a good tubes and IMO it will all depend on synergy with the equipment and taste.

 

[rosgr63]

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I had a littl ebit sour experinece with Langrex once. I bought a pair of Mullard ECC33 from them. After I sold them a frined from the forum let me know that those tubes were not Mullard but Tungsram.
 
When I question Langrex they told me they were Mullard "export" tubes. Not after a lot more questioning and pressure they came out clean and accept they were really Tungsram.
 
Fortunatley they agreed to take them back and refund me.

 
I remember the case we discussed it with Blackmore trying to identify these tubes.
 
The fact that he refunded you is a good sign.
Some sellers don't know much about the tubes they are selling, don't offer a refund either and make you fight getting your money back.

 

[Sid-Fi]

Thanks for spending the time to do the comparisons. Right now with my setup, I'm definitely trying to avoid "V" shape, or other unevenly emphasized, sound signatures so knowing that about the Ken-Rad is helpful.
 
With my RCA VT 231, my setup has a very full, warm, and inviting sound, but the treble region seems a little too recessed to me on my setup. In other words, my RCA VT 231 has the same excellent strengths as my HD 650 (lush mids, full bass), yet the same weakness (recessed or "veiled" treble) at least with my headphones. Together, they are very immersive and enganging. However, its distracting to me to know that one part of the frequency response is not convincing.
 
Until I get a flagship headphone like HD 800 that is more balanced, I am looking to somewhat counter my HD 650s character by bringing out the treble and taming the mid-bass hump. So far, only old-stock Sylvania's really seem to do this well.
 
It's too bad my Sylvania GTA doesn't mesh well with my USAF 596 rectifier. The RCA just sings with the 596 and makes it truly energetic, enganging, and immsersive beyond what my Sophia Princess can do. Hopefully, I'll find something wiht the 596 that provides the same engagement as the RCA, but accomplishes countering my HD 650 like my Syvlania GTA does with the Princess.
 
Thanks again!
 
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I made the comparison between the Ken-Rad BG V231 and the RCA GG V231. IMO the Ken-Rad has a more "V" shape sound curb comapred to the RCA. IMO the Ken-Rad wins in bass, the RCA in midrange and the RCA has a very slight advantagein high frequencies (being smoother).
 
Both a good tubes and IMO it will all depend on synergy with the equipment and taste.

 

[musicman59]

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I remember the case we discussed it with Blackmore trying to identify these tubes.
 
The fact that he refunded you is a good sign.
Some sellers don't know much about the tubes they are selling, don't offer a refund either and make you fight getting your money back.

yeap, that's the one. I agree at least they refunded me.

 

[musicman59]

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Thanks for spending the time to do the comparisons. Right now with my setup, I'm definitely trying to avoid "V" shape, or other unevenly emphasized, sound signatures so knowing that about the Ken-Rad is helpful.
 
With my RCA VT 231, my setup has a very full, warm, and inviting sound, but the treble region seems a little too recessed to me on my setup. In other words, my RCA VT 231 has the same excellent strengths as my HD 650 (lush mids, full bass), yet the same weakness (recessed or "veiled" treble) at least with my headphones. Together, they are very immersive and enganging. However, its distracting to me to know that one part of the frequency response is not convincing.
 
Until I get a flagship headphone like HD 800 that is more balanced, I am looking to somewhat counter my HD 650s character by bringing out the treble and taming the mid-bass hump. So far, only old-stock Sylvania's really seem to do this well.
 
It's too bad my Sylvania GTA doesn't mesh well with my USAF 596 rectifier. The RCA just sings with the 596 and makes it truly energetic, enganging, and immsersive beyond what my Sophia Princess can do. Hopefully, I'll find something wiht the 596 that provides the same engagement as the RCA, but accomplishes countering my HD 650 like my Syvlania GTA does with the Princess.
 
Thanks again!
 

The ones I love are my Sylavania 6SN7WGT Brown Base, Chrome Top and short bottle. they are very dynamic with great response in all frequencies.

 

[dminches]

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The ones I love are my Sylavania 6SN7WGT Brown Base, Chrome Top and short bottle. they are very dynamic with great response in all frequencies.

 
Those are very nice as are the Tung Sol 6SN7 WGTA brown base,  

 

[rosgr63]

Both the Sylvania 6SN7WGT BB and Tung-Sol 6SN7WGTA BB are great tubes.
 
Sid-Fi can I suggest a tube like the Mullard ECC33 or Sylvania VT231 Bad Boy style (2 plate holes) or the CBS Hytron VT231?
Also if you get the chance try the RAL cable for the HD650.

 

[dminches]

The motto of this group is "we can bankrupt even the wealthiest of addicts."

 

[rosgr63]

Come on David, I did not even mention the forbidden BXX or ECC32 words!
 
What about one of my all time favourites the TS Mouse Ears?
 
Am I forgiven now?

 

[dminches]

I have never heard a pair of Mouse ears so i can't comment. I can say that ECC32s are wonderful tubes.  And expensive.
 
Stavros, you are not forgiven.  You (and skylab) have cost me a lot of money!!

 

[hifimanrookie]

The motto of this group is "we can bankrupt even the wealthiest of addicts."

I just started with tuberolling and am already feelin it on my wallet is there a helpgroup for the tube addicted?

 

[rosgr63]

After your very wise comments about the 12SN7 tubes I showed restrain and stopped bidding on a lot of 66 12SN7 tubes.
 
Why?
 
It would take me a week to tube test and a month to amp test, so I thought about what you told me and stopped!
 
There is hope after all.............

 

[dminches]

And it didn't even require an intervention.  Well done!

 

[rosgr63]

Instead I got a Hytron, a RCA, and a pair of TS BGRPs 12SN7's which cost as much as the 66 lot!
 
So rest assured there is no cure...................