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Apr 9, 2021 at 7:36 PM Post #38,641 of 39,986
Drop is coming out with their version of Sennheiser HD800S - HD 8XX. Curious about what people think - it is not out yet. The price is set at $1100.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-sennheise...CampaignId=2200297&iterableTemplateId=3016703
Massdrop recently made available their modified version of the Hifiman HE5XX for $220. Judging from the amount of people selling their new headphones I wonder if it was a flop.
With the recent announcement that Sennheiser was looking to sell off/outsource their consumer audio business customer confidence is not very high. Coupled with the timing of the announcement being a mere days prior to the 8xx being announced, not to mention the pricing, I for for one am taking a wait and see approach on where and what Sennheiser goes from here, and I will def wait until multiple reviews are out on the 8xx.

The HE5xx as we discussed prior, isnt tuned the same as the HE500. Shame.
 
Apr 9, 2021 at 7:39 PM Post #38,642 of 39,986
Have any of our 300B users tried these yet? It appears that they are shipping.

https://www.westernelectric.com/300b

Damn 3k for a matched quad? pricey. Seems like some hardcore tube heads here, anyone happen to know where I might find a pair of telefunken ad1s besides the pair for 4.7k on ebay atm ;p
 
Apr 9, 2021 at 8:57 PM Post #38,643 of 39,986
Damn 3k for a matched quad? pricey. Seems like some hardcore tube heads here, anyone happen to know where I might find a pair of telefunken ad1s besides the pair for 4.7k on ebay atm ;p

You're chasing after some incredibly rare tubes....

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ad1.html

Google translated from German

According to the Telefunken production list, the AD1 was first produced in 1935 in Berlin. The plant had built 264,216 units by 1945. In 1945/46 68 were added, then 2, 1 and finally another 44 in 1952/53. Hardly any replicas ... total of 264,331 pieces. For the earliest model dating with original equipment, the factor of first delivery for test set-ups including specific circuit suggestions from the Reöhern manufacturer or developer has a different meaning depending on the season, which we do not know: finished series devices in the same year or in the following year. The Berlin production list also contains an AD1T for 1938 and states a production of 88,615 of this AD1T by 1945.
 
Apr 9, 2021 at 9:05 PM Post #38,644 of 39,986
I know... its for my Eddie Current balancing act. The sad thing is I made an offer of 1k on a pair 10 years ago and dude turned me down said last pair went for 1.5k.

The same seller has a single telefunken ad1... I don't think I need a matched pair for my use case so I might just try acquiring single tubes over the years. I have a pair of Tungsram NOS (well 1 now, other shattered pulling the tube out of the amp lol).

And several pairs of the EML mesh plate version.
 
Apr 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM Post #38,645 of 39,986
Drop is coming out with their version of Sennheiser HD800S - HD 8XX. Curious about what people think - it is not out yet. The price is set at $1100.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-sennheise...CampaignId=2200297&iterableTemplateId=3016703
Massdrop recently made available their modified version of the Hifiman HE5XX for $220. Judging from the amount of people selling their new headphones I wonder if it was a flop.
Mordy...maybe better to look for a nice used HD800, they show up for decent prices now and again.
Try to find one with nice pads because if you need to replace them it will cost you about $100 for original ones
 
Apr 10, 2021 at 10:28 PM Post #38,646 of 39,986
Mordy...maybe better to look for a nice used HD800, they show up for decent prices now and again.
Try to find one with nice pads because if you need to replace them it will cost you about $100 for original ones
Thanks - that was my thinking as well, but I did not know that the pads are so expensive....
I have three pairs of Sennheiser headphones:
HD 201 that sounds like 80% of the HD650 after 300 hours of break-in. Used to test amp upon turning on and when trying new tubes - can withstand explosive pops and noise.
HD 250II which is easily the most comfortable headphone I own - the bass is very good and goes very low.
HD650 from Massdrop (HD6XX) which continues to impress me but clamps down too hard in the long run.

$1100 is too steep for me for the Drop HD8XX.

I have heard rumors that ZMF may come out with a budget no frills headphone but so far I haven't seen anything.
 
Apr 11, 2021 at 12:01 AM Post #38,647 of 39,986
Thanks - that was my thinking as well, but I did not know that the pads are so expensive....
I have three pairs of Sennheiser headphones:
HD 201 that sounds like 80% of the HD650 after 300 hours of break-in. Used to test amp upon turning on and when trying new tubes - can withstand explosive pops and noise.
HD 250II which is easily the most comfortable headphone I own - the bass is very good and goes very low.
HD650 from Massdrop (HD6XX) which continues to impress me but clamps down too hard in the long run.

$1100 is too steep for me for the Drop HD8XX.

I have heard rumors that ZMF may come out with a budget no frills headphone but so far I haven't seen anything.
This one or one of their own?
https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/stock-headphones/products/fostex-t50rp
 
Apr 11, 2021 at 1:08 AM Post #38,648 of 39,986
Apr 11, 2021 at 6:56 AM Post #38,649 of 39,986
Thanks - that was my thinking as well, but I did not know that the pads are so expensive....
I have three pairs of Sennheiser headphones:
HD 201 that sounds like 80% of the HD650 after 300 hours of break-in. Used to test amp upon turning on and when trying new tubes - can withstand explosive pops and noise.
HD 250II which is easily the most comfortable headphone I own - the bass is very good and goes very low.
HD650 from Massdrop (HD6XX) which continues to impress me but clamps down too hard in the long run.

$1100 is too steep for me for the Drop HD8XX.

I have heard rumors that ZMF may come out with a budget no frills headphone but so far I haven't seen anything.
Yes, the pads are expensive....so make sure to try to get a pair will pretty good pads, and headband if possible.
I have heard the same rumors, as many have about the budget ZMF.
Hopefully this will happen at some point....keep the faith.

You could get a used ZMF headphone for probably about the same price as a used HD800
A used Atticus would probably be the cheapest option...it is a closed headphone....great mid bass oriented with great slam and great weight to the music.
Cheapest open option probably the Aeolus, which is an open Atticus...I have never heard one, but I would like too.



On this clip at about the 51:45 mark...Zach talks about maybe a more budget friendly headphone.
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 1:36 PM Post #38,650 of 39,986
Heads up: I received a quote from

https://www.milspares.co.uk/

the tubes they have are 5998s and asking price converted into USD is $101.00 each, which is a helluva lot cheaper than what Woo audio is charging for 5998s
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 2:07 PM Post #38,651 of 39,986
Heads up: I received a quote from

https://www.milspares.co.uk/

the tubes they have are 5998s and asking price converted into USD is $101.00 each, which is a helluva lot cheaper than what Woo audio is charging for 5998s
That's a good price period if they are (presumably) NOS Tung Sols. Around $150 seems to be the going price on Ebay from sellers that have a decent track record.
 
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