1964 Ears Adel IEMs
Jul 22, 2016 at 1:47 AM Post #5,731 of 9,124
  Hey guys. Glad to see the new module launched. Stephen & I have been out in San Francisco meeting with Bob Weir and Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead. So seeing the module up, came as a surprise to me as well. I would have helped promote the release otherwise.
 
The new G1 won't be everybody's cup of tea. That module I've found to be my go-to for trap music (G is for Gucci Mane, the Trap God). For bass testing, I usually use various trap stuff and Sunn O))).
 
More sub bass and sparkly highs. Sound stage is closer to the B1, than the S1 module. It has more isolation than the B1. I see it as the best of both worlds really, at least in terms of the fixed modules go.
 
I'm actually not sure if the MAM can replicate the bass response of this one, I'll have to try on the testing bench when I get back to the lab. It's possible, I just haven't tried yet.
 
I've had the G1s in my A12s for the better part of a month now, I dig em.

 
So how is the G1 compare to the S1 in terms of Bass? Like does the G1 have more Bass than S1? And is the G1 has better detail than S1?  cause most ppl  said the S1 has lots of Bass but less detail.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 4:06 AM Post #5,732 of 9,124
   
It might be just me - but I would personally change this bit in your review:
 
 
The technology is actually from Asius (who I notice you make no mention of), and the way you've written it sounds like it is a 64Audio invention.  It is a collaboration between the two companies (a very successful one and I hope the partnership continues). But any reference to ADEL really needs to also reference Asius.  It is their invention.
 
I tried to cover a lot of the Adel tech and what it does in my own review of the U6- please feel free to borrow from it if you'd like.

Brooko thank you for the important notice. I'll try to add that info to the review from your words. I only looked to the 64 Audio website for information and there was no mention of Asius as far as I could see.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 7:42 AM Post #5,733 of 9,124
So how is the G1 compare to the S1 in terms of Bass? Like does the G1 have more Bass than S1? And is the G1 has better detail than S1?  cause most ppl  said the S1 has lots of Bass but less detail.


Ok i guess i wasnt specific enough. The G1 has more sub bass than the S1. The highs are either on par or slightly more than the B1. In the middle, Id say its closer to the B1 than S1.

Its a pretty V shaped sound signature.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 9:00 AM Post #5,734 of 9,124
I just got my MAM last yesterday. Did not get a shipping notification, they just showed up in the mail.
I could not adjust them using the first or second method according to Vitali's video. For some reason could not hear much of a difference but I did adjust them with the third method (music). At the full close position the bass was overpowering the rest of the frequencies and even kind of distorting a little bit and also the soundstage collapsed significantly. At the full open position the soundstage is big, the detail is magnificent but the bass lost the impact. I end up with half a turn back from full open.
At the position the soundstage remained big and holographic with great detail and the bass came back deep and tight but not overpowering the rest of the sound. These little module are awesome! 
 
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Jul 22, 2016 at 9:36 AM Post #5,735 of 9,124
I just got my MAM last yesterday. Did not get a shipping notification, they just showed up in the mail.
I could not adjust them using the first or second method according to Vitali's video. For some reason could not hear much of a difference but I did adjust them with the third method (music). At the full close position the bass was overpowering the rest of the frequencies and even kind of distorting a little bit and also the soundstage collapsed significantly. At the full open position the soundstage is big, the detail is magnificent but the bass lost the impact. I end up with half a turn back from full open.
At the position the soundstage remained big and holographic with great detail and the bass came back deep and tight but not overpowering the rest of the sound. These little module are awesome! 


Just remember that you tune to each individual ear, not as a pair. Each inner ear is different.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 9:38 AM Post #5,736 of 9,124
Just remember that you tune to each individual ear, not as a pair. Each inner ear is different.

Thanks for clarifying that. I will play with the adjustments individually next. 
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Jul 22, 2016 at 2:46 PM Post #5,738 of 9,124
So now the question for me at least, which has the greater quantity of bass, A12/U12 with G1 module, or A8/U8 with the S1?

They really should stop using S1.  It is not just the amount of bass that the S1 is delivering, but the whole sound signature is affected by the S1 rendering the A/U12 somewhat muddy, reduced air and openness, bleed into the low mid at times, and veiled.  I don't think anyone who buys the A/U12 would like that kind of a sound. 
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 2:51 PM Post #5,739 of 9,124
  They really should stop using S1.  It is not just the amount of bass that the S1 is delivering, but the whole sound signature is affected by the S1 rendering the A/U12 somewhat muddy, reduced air and openness, bleed into the low mid at times, and veiled.  I don't think anyone who buys the A/U12 would like that kind of a sound. 


Although I likely am a minority, I have been very happily using my A6 with S1 modules and enjoy the signature and strong isolation. I suspect the A6 is less bass heavy and bass-bleed prone than the A12, but I'd be disappointed if the S1 option were unavailable.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM Post #5,740 of 9,124
 
Although I likely am a minority, I have been very happily using my A6 with S1 modules and enjoy the signature and strong isolation. I suspect the A6 is less bass heavy and bass-bleed prone than the A12, but I'd be disappointed if the S1 option were unavailable.

Good point, I was only referring to S1 with A/U12.  I understand the other models like A/U10, A/U6, or even A/U3 that have less bass BA drivers may or could use or benefit from the S1. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't mean to apply my point to the whole series. But for A/U12, 64Audio should really ship them with B1 by default in stead of S1 unless specifically asked for.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 3:30 PM Post #5,741 of 9,124
Ok i guess i wasnt specific enough. The G1 has more sub bass than the S1. The highs are either on par or slightly more than the B1. In the middle, Id say its closer to the B1 than S1.

Its a pretty V shaped sound signature.

I still cannot understand it.  How can the G1 create more bass and at the same time improve on the high.  I thought they are diametrically different from one another.  I thought if it is closed then you get more bass and if it is opened (to an extend) you get clearer highs. How can you open and close at the same time. Your website did not explain the process either.  So if I have the U/12 will the G1 give me the muffled sound?  Or may be I should ask how is the G1 compare to the B1?
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 5:48 PM Post #5,742 of 9,124
  I still cannot understand it.  How can the G1 create more bass and at the same time improve on the high.  I thought they are diametrically different from one another.  I thought if it is closed then you get more bass and if it is opened (to an extend) you get clearer highs. How can you open and close at the same time. Your website did not explain the process either.  So if I have the U/12 will the G1 give me the muffled sound?  Or may be I should ask how is the G1 compare to the B1?

 
Yea it's confused me as well.  But I think the new G1 modules use a different type of membrane, which would give more sub bass and high compare to the S1.  
 
Jul 23, 2016 at 12:57 PM Post #5,743 of 9,124
  I don't have an exact information about the module, it should be the one which comes with the package. They're not mine, they were sent to me from a friend for reviewing purposes. I can ask that to him.


The review needs to be sone with the S1 module. It sounds like you had the B1 module. The sound is boomy, muddy, and lousy treble with the B1. The S1 changes all of that. I sold my K10 CIEM after that.
 
Jul 23, 2016 at 1:06 PM Post #5,744 of 9,124
The review needs to be sone with the S1 module. It sounds like you had the B1 module. The sound is boomy, muddy, and lousy treble with the B1. The S1 changes all of that. I sold my K10 CIEM after that.


I think you have these backwards. Also, the B1 module is black in color so it should be pretty easy to tell them apart.
 
Jul 23, 2016 at 1:16 PM Post #5,745 of 9,124
 
I don't have an exact information about the module, it should be the one which comes with the package. They're not mine, they were sent to me from a friend for reviewing purposes. I can ask that to him.



The review needs to be sone with the S1 module. It sounds like you had the B1 module. The sound is boomy, muddy, and lousy treble with the B1. The S1 changes all of that. I sold my K10 CIEM after that.


Ken, the review was done with a default S1 module, look at the picture, it has aluminum finish module :wink:
 

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