[SuperMAG]

Why yes, yes I do:bigsmile_face: So the ATR is more lively and up front in it's presentation where as (at least for me) the HDS1 is a more mellow (not to be confused with what some call veiled) laid back presentation. To me the ATR sounds more powerful but I guess that will depend on your ears and device you media comes out of. I think I stated it before I feel the ATR is a refined version of all the ATE's:wink_face:

How is bass, soundstage, mids and high compared to orignal ate and would u consider them better in overall qualiry. Using smartphone, tablet and laptops.

Also which is more confertible to wear, atr or hds1.

 

[manlapasj13]

I want to know more about this kz atr too.

 

[Podster]

How is bass, soundstage, mids and high compared to orignal ate and would u consider them better in overall qualiry. Using smartphone, tablet and laptops.

Also which is more confertible to wear, atr or hds1.

Ooh, tough call by 2!
 
I think the improvements in the AT shell "R" are all the way around from SS, SQ, parts and build but YMMV

 
To me they wear pretty much like the other AT shells but they are a little smoother around the edges I believe as well as other parts (Brass fittings) but as far as comfort it's how your ears are shaped for the ATR and the HDS1 is small, light and just sits in the ear easily. I wear all my iem's over ear and I can't even tell I have the HDS1 on when wearing them.
 

 

[manlapasj13]

Podsterso you're saying atr is better than ate?

 

[ChopChop]

I need to buy a new iem for under 30 euros.
I have seen a lot of mentions about the KK-Ting, VJJB K4S, Xiaomi hybrid and tennmak pro (I dont like the round the ear design)
 
Are these the best under 30 euros ? What would you recommend for someone who likes bass ?

 

[To.M]

tennmak piano, **** 4in1

 

[Mellowship]

  I need to buy a new iem for under 30 euros.
I have seen a lot of mentions about the KK-Ting, VJJB K4S, Xiaomi hybrid and tennmak pro (I dont like the round the ear design)
 
Are these the best under 30 euros ? What would you recommend for someone who likes bass ?

The Tennmaks are round the ear. I'd go for those wooden VJJB K4 or another woodies, the DZAT, which I got today on the mail and been loving them so far. 

 

[Podster]

@Podsterso you're saying atr is better than ate?

Well after several days of listening I would say yes but remember we are talking my old ears, YMMV on this but like the ZS3 to the rest of the ZS line they are the upgraded product of the initial designs (ATE's)

 

[ChopChop]

  The Tennmaks are round the ear. I'd go for those wooden VJJB K4 or another woodies, the DZAT, which I got today on the mail and been loving them so far. 

Wooden iem are the ones I like the least design wise, but I am here for the sound quality so screw that I guess 

Do you have the VJJB ? If you do how do they compare to the DZAT in terms of bass ?
 
I would also like to hear from someone about the Musicmaker KK-Ting,I see many recommendations but not any reviews.

 

[carltonh]

  Wooden iem are the ones I like the least design wise, but I am here for the sound quality so screw that I guess 

Do you have the VJJB ? If you do how do they compare to the DZAT in terms of bass ?
 
I would also like to hear from someone about the Musicmaker KK-Ting,I see many recommendations but not any reviews.

I love the KK-Ting. I put it above the **** UES due to a deeper and more impactful bass, but just slightly behind in middle and treble details.

 

[Lurk650]

I need to buy a new iem for under 30 euros.
I have seen a lot of mentions about the KK-Ting, VJJB K4S, Xiaomi hybrid and tennmak pro (I dont like the round the ear design)

Are these the best under 30 euros ? What would you recommend for someone who likes bass ?

MusicMaker FengYin

 

[Mellowship]

  Wooden iem are the ones I like the least design wise, but I am here for the sound quality so screw that I guess 

Do you have the VJJB ? If you do how do they compare to the DZAT in terms of bass ?
 
I would also like to hear from someone about the Musicmaker KK-Ting,I see many recommendations but not any reviews.

The VJJB K4 has a more balanced sound signature, while the DZAT has some mid-bass thump. Both have good bass, in a sense it doesn't interfere with the mids/highs, but has presence and resolution.
Both have distinct sound, good resolution, good build quality and are rather comfortable to wear. The VJJB is more prone to sound differences with tip rolling. The DZAT has a mic, but only works with iDevices. The DZAT comes with a beautiful cardboard package that includes a notebook, a pen, a carrying bag, tips, instructions etc.
 
Since you are not fond of the wooden and over the ear, go for the KZ ED9. It's a 2-in-1, with it's interchangeable nozzles. 
 
Or, with that budget, you can buy 2 or 3 iems and then decide which one suits you best    

 

[audio123]

Vjjb k4 scales well with source

 

[ChopChop]

  The VJJB K4 has a more balanced sound signature, while the DZAT has some mid-bass thump. Both have good bass, in a sense it doesn't interfere with the mids/highs, but has presence and resolution.
Both have distinct sound, good resolution, good build quality and are rather comfortable to wear. The VJJB is more prone to sound differences with tip rolling. The DZAT has a mic, but only works with iDevices. The DZAT comes with a beautiful cardboard package that includes a notebook, a pen, a carrying bag, tips, instructions etc.
 
Since you are not fond of the wooden and over the ear, go for the KZ ED9. It's a 2-in-1, with it's interchangeable nozzles. 
 
Or, with that budget, you can buy 2 or 3 iems and then decide which one suits you best    

From the audiobudget review I got the impression that the VJJB was the one that had more bass thump.
On what tips did you get the best sound from the VJJB ?
I am not very worried about design, over the ear is out of the question for me, but I can live with wooden earphones.

MusicMaker FengYin

The problem with musicmaker for me is that there are almost no reviews about their earphones, I am only aware of the tw1 review.
I'm probably going to try some musicmakers when they get more reviews, that way I can be sure of what I'm buying.

 

[tw1s]

Hi guys , my joyroom e107 are dead and i want to buy a new pair under 10$ to use at phone ,pc , for hip-hop/rap. Any recomandations?