short simple answer... itunes sucks. drag-n-drop ftw.

thanks to this thread, i just discovered MFSL. so thank u to all who have commented. while i dont have any originals yet, i have flac files and love them.

id say chino from the deftones but seeing them live proves he can reach back to the 1st album and not miss a beat. i think its just the direction he's going in is moving away from the brutal screams from songs like engine no. 9 and others from adrenaline. he seems to be going more towards...

thomas haake - meshuggah done. close tie for 2nd... abe cunningham - deftones danny carey - tool

turn on mtv and choose as you wish.

deftones - adrenaline 7 words birthmark engine no 9 cypress hill - S/T pigs how i could just kill a man hand on the pump muse - Origin of Symmetry space dementia hyper music plug-in baby nirvana - in utero pennyroyal tea radio-friendly unit shifter tourettes nirvana -...

im amazed people listen to them after frogstomp. i bet the people talking about later albums are from australia.

theres a ton listed on this "piggy" site i know of.

i skipped an opportunity to see nirvana. ive seen damn near all ive ever wanted to see but this one haunts me.

thats all ive found. theyre usually released in vinyl with one or 2 songs per side or something.

the only french band i know of is Gojira but i have a feeling theyre a little harder than what youre looking for.

OiNK is your friend.

incubus has some great bass lines. morning view springs to mind.

SPOR for a proper introduction to what dark dnb should sound like. anything from violence recordings or lifted music is the way to go. i do agree with alot of the other recommendations too but these are the peak.