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Jun 29, 2015 at 4:58 PM Post #5,221 of 6,729
silver8ack said:
  Thanks for that.  Im just surprised with all the grado love, that there aren't updated graphs for the e series yet.  It's been a while! :)
 
I think I may pick up the sr60e.  I had the sr225e for a while, but I just couldn't justify the $200 at the time.  Also, I couldn't stand the L pads or the super thick cord.  The comfies/thinner cord of the 60/80 should be ok for me.  Plus I still have some quarter-modded comfies and HD414s.  I just wish I could see some frequencies of them.  
 
From what I gather so far... the sr60e would be similar to the ksc75 but with better soundstage, more extended bass with less mid-hump, and slightly brighter upper mids/highs.
 
Sound accurate?  If so I'll probably pull the trigger.
 
UNLESS.. the sr80e is the same except better . Hahaha.  
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I've owned the 60e (sold), currently own the 80e and use the Koss KSC75 with PE headband as my primary pair of headphones.
 
The 60e and 80e sound very different. The 80e has a very clean, very strongly emphasized treble. I don't like them at all for general listening, but find them useful for older rock recordings which are lacking in treble response.
 
The 60e's have less treble emphasis, but more of a very pronounced midrange and upper midrange. I do not like the sound signature at all. It has a weird, AM radio tinniness. I bought and listened to two pair and burned both in for 60+ hours. An unimpressive set of headphones. 
 
The Koss KSC75 sound quite different when used with the clips vs. modded with headbands. With clips, the 75's have a pronounced treble emphasis, but sound very detailed and have some kickin' bass.
 
I prefer them with headbands however: They still retain an airy, detailed sound signature, but with even a bit more bass (certainly not excessive, well south of portapro's), and with a sound sig closure to neutral. They hit a sweet spot, and I couldn't ask for anything better.
 
 
I apologize for the blunt assessments of the 60e and 80e. I know this is a pro-grado thread, but I've used and purchased 4 different grado models and have a decent amount of listening time with each set, and just want to be honest in my assessments. 
 
Jun 29, 2015 at 5:02 PM Post #5,222 of 6,729
ruthieandjohn said:
 
Hangin' at the ready with some of my best Grados!
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I'm willing to bet that if you have this printed on some T-shirts, you would sell some.
 
Jun 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM Post #5,223 of 6,729
stacker.....you are one post away from 2000....make it a doozy  
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Jun 29, 2015 at 9:28 PM Post #5,224 of 6,729
danmlr said:
I've owned the 60e (sold), currently own the 80e and use the Koss KSC75 with PE headband as my primary pair of headphones.

The 60e and 80e sound very different. The 80e has a very clean, very strongly emphasized treble. I don't like them at all for general listening, but find them useful for older rock recordings which are lacking in treble response.

The 60e's have less treble emphasis, but more of a very pronounced midrange and upper midrange. I do not like the sound signature at all. It has a weird, AM radio tinniness. I bought and listened to two pair and burned both in for 60+ hours. An unimpressive set of headphones. 

The Koss KSC75 sound quite different when used with the clips vs. modded with headbands. With clips, the 75's have a pronounced treble emphasis, but sound very detailed and have some kickin' bass.

I prefer them with headbands however: They still retain an airy, detailed sound signature, but with even a bit more bass (certainly not excessive, well south of portapro's), and with a sound sig closure to neutral. They hit a sweet spot, and I couldn't ask for anything better.


I apologize for the blunt assessments of the 60e and 80e. I know this is a pro-grado thread, but I've used and purchased 4 different grado models and have a decent amount of listening time with each set, and just want to be honest in my assessments. 
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I haven't heard the e models of either the 60 or the 80, but I always preferred the old 60 to 80. There was something warm and forgiving about the 60 that the 80 to the 225 missed; similar signature but none of the charm.

I only own a very old pair of SR80s now though. Someone on my old street in Brooklyn (very possibly Steve Buscemi, I have a pair of his shoes) left them out on the street for neighbors to take. No pads, but that's pretty much a good thing for headphones you find on the street... Better to supply your own ear stuffs.
 
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:22 PM Post #5,225 of 6,729
mercuttio said:
I haven't heard the e models of either the 60 or the 80, but I always preferred the old 60 to 80. There was something warm and forgiving about the 60 that the 80 to the 225 missed; similar signature but none of the charm.

I only own a very old pair of SR80s now though. Someone on my old street in Brooklyn (very possibly Steve Buscemi, I have a pair of his shoes) left them out on the street for neighbors to take. No pads, but that's pretty much a good thing for headphones you find on the street... Better to supply your own ear stuffs.
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If you ask me, you can't go wrong with either of them, they're both, no brainers, in my book.
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 2:23 AM Post #5,227 of 6,729
mercuttio said:
I haven't heard the e models of either the 60 or the 80, but I always preferred the old 60 to 80. There was something warm and forgiving about the 60 that the 80 to the 225 missed; similar signature but none of the charm.

I only own a very old pair of SR80s now though. Someone on my old street in Brooklyn (very possibly Steve Buscemi, I have a pair of his shoes) left them out on the street for neighbors to take. No pads, but that's pretty much a good thing for headphones you find on the street... Better to supply your own ear stuffs.
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Oh how lucky you are... Why don't my neighbor leave Grados on the streets for me to take...
 
Abw I agree on the accessment about the SR60 and the SR80, though mine applies to the i-series rather than the original. A few years after selling my SR60i I bought the iGrado, and the warm, intimate sound signature is retained on that dirt cheap model. 
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM Post #5,228 of 6,729
williamleonhart said:
  Oh how lucky you are... Why don't my neighbor leave Grados on the streets for me to take...
 
Abw I agree on the accessment about the SR60 and the SR80, though mine applies to the i-series rather than the original. A few years after selling my SR60i I bought the iGrado, and the warm, intimate sound signature is retained on that dirt cheap model. 
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Ditto on the praise for the iGrado.  I just finished doing some yard work, wearing the iGrado, and absolutely delighting in how it sounds (and how it stays put) while pulling weeds.  The least expensive, wonderful entry point to the Grado line!
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 10:14 AM Post #5,229 of 6,729
williamleonhart said:
  Oh how lucky you are... Why don't my neighbor leave Grados on the streets for me to take...
 
Abw I agree on the accessment about the SR60 and the SR80, though mine applies to the i-series rather than the original. A few years after selling my SR60i I bought the iGrado, and the warm, intimate sound signature is retained on that dirt cheap model. 
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The positives of wearing Steve Buscemi's shoes and possibly having his headphones are outweighed by the public transportation system in NYC. 
 
I had an SR40 for a while too. I actually preferred those to the iGrado... comfier to me. Though they weren't as open and didn't sound quite as good.
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 10:55 AM Post #5,230 of 6,729
danmlr said:
  I've owned the 60e (sold), currently own the 80e and use the Koss KSC75 with PE headband as my primary pair of headphones.
 
The 60e and 80e sound very different. The 80e has a very clean, very strongly emphasized treble. I don't like them at all for general listening, but find them useful for older rock recordings which are lacking in treble response.
 
The 60e's have less treble emphasis, but more of a very pronounced midrange and upper midrange. I do not like the sound signature at all. It has a weird, AM radio tinniness. I bought and listened to two pair and burned both in for 60+ hours. An unimpressive set of headphones. 
 
The Koss KSC75 sound quite different when used with the clips vs. modded with headbands. With clips, the 75's have a pronounced treble emphasis, but sound very detailed and have some kickin' bass.
 
I prefer them with headbands however: They still retain an airy, detailed sound signature, but with even a bit more bass (certainly not excessive, well south of portapro's), and with a sound sig closure to neutral. They hit a sweet spot, and I couldn't ask for anything better.
 
 
I apologize for the blunt assessments of the 60e and 80e. I know this is a pro-grado thread, but I've used and purchased 4 different grado models and have a decent amount of listening time with each set, and just want to be honest in my assessments. 
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I have both 60e and 80e in front of me. They sound the same except the 60e has a strange metalic accent in the highs (that AM radio tinniness that you mention). 
 
I have made blind tests by the way and it is hard to hear the differences. 
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 10:56 AM Post #5,231 of 6,729
writerhead said:
 
I have both 60e and 80e in front of me. They sound the same to me except the 60e has a strange metalic accent in the highs (that AM radio tinniness that you mention). 
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Do you mind opening the flat pads on both to check out the driver?
Does your sr60e driver protrudes forward quite significantly in comparison to your sr80e?
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM Post #5,232 of 6,729
rovopio said:
   
Do you mind opening the flat pads on both to check out the driver?
Does your sr60e driver protrudes forward quite significantly in comparison to your sr80e?
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I have just checked and in both models the drivers are perfectly aligned with the black plastic enclosure. Grado 80e are red, 60e only have a red dot on the drivers. 
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM Post #5,233 of 6,729
writerhead said:
  I have just checked and in both models the drivers are perfectly aligned with the black plastic enclosure. Grado 80e are red, 60e only have a red dot on the drivers. 
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My bad!
What I meant was... does the black plastic enclosure "distance" between the 60e and the 80e relatively the same?
Or does the 60e black plastic protrudes significantly more outward than the 80e?
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 11:25 AM Post #5,234 of 6,729
rovopio said:
   
My bad!
What I meant was... does the black plastic enclosure "distance" between the 60e and the 80e relatively the same?
Or does the 60e black plastic protrudes significantly more outward than the 80e?
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They are exactly the same. 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
I prefer to use the bowls I bought on ebay with the grado 80e. 
 
They are thicker than original grado bowls and gives more bass, in a similar way than the tape mod. They are more uncomfortable than the comfys that come with Grado 60-80 but improves also the clarity and they are cheaper the the original bowls.
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM Post #5,235 of 6,729
Mine (when I had them), the 60e protrudes out at least 1.5 cm outward, and with the way you took the picture, the protrude is noticeable. (i.e. No need to take close-up macro photograph to see them).
And my 60e does not sound the same with my 80e.
 
So maybe Grado did, like Mercuttio said, do some building adjustments along the way. That said... I would say there is a definite possibility in my mind that the rs1e of early batches (and demo units that is likely to come from those early batches), sounded different than the rs1e that Mercuttio owns.
 
As your written short summary of 60e does not sound like what I hear from my old 60e. (More sub-bass, very thick on the lower midrange, quite lacking in resolution in comparison to the 80e, or the old sr60). Basically just sounds all-around like a cheap Chi-Fi headphones.
 
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