Android phones and USB DACs - Page 30

Could you provide a dmesg log output in order to know what is going on at the kernel level between the S3 and the hiFace Two?

dmesg:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=dmesg

1.                                 0x80    bmAttributes   (Bus-powered Device)

2.                                 0xFA    MaxPower   (500 mA)

http://pastebin.com/aGiKSQPc

The hiFace Two requires 500 mA.

According to the USB spec, the S3 can only provide 100 mA.

So there is a need to connect the hiFace Two to a S3 via a (battery) powered USB hub, which provides the required 500 mA.

The USB Audio Driver for ALSA of the S3 is able to drive USB Audio Class 2 (UAC2) devices like the hiFace Two.

https://github.com/sgs3/GT-I9300_Kernel/blob/master/sound/usb/card.c#L2

2 *   (Tentative) USB Audio Driver for ALSA

227 case UAC_VERSION_1: {

246 case UAC_VERSION_2: {

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

. AMB Gamma 1:

http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma1/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/780#post_8750043

. AMB Gamma 2:

http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27247705&postcount=279

. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/429589-Samsung-Galaxy-S3?s=1a313fae4795a9a7493a6ce0f677ca8e&p=8551119&viewfull=1#post8551119

. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/240#post_8654226

. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

. Beresford Caiman:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-accessories/beresford-caiman-673787/review

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p1140199199635616900-cables/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27604946&postcount=449

. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:

https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013101

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/corsair-hs1-gaming-headset

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27238117#post27238117

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy-s-iii-real-user-review-part-2.html

. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

. GoVibe DAC:

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2440879&st=500&p=53317360&#entry53317360

. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:

http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go-vibe/products/govibe-minidac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii/15#post_8525675

. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe-petite-dac-amp-appreciation-thread-pics-little-update

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/195#post_8552452

. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8677483

. HRT Music Streamer II:

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/465#post_8534856

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)

http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/480#post_8539705

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8688938

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/720#post_8638606

. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/bithead-faq.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/135#post_8527516

. HeadStage USB DAC cable:

http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/short-review-headstage-usb-dac-cable.html

http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/topic,4452.msg241979.html#msg241979

. HiFiMan Express HM-101:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman-express-brand-and-hm-101-portable-usb-dac

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27284184&postcount=291

. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73

http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=314&start=20#p1636

. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/5535#post_8509186

. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso-d5-hj-yet-another-usb-dac-amp

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-dac-usb-micro-b-male-to-mini-b-male#post_8735134

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29069294&postcount=924

. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=6fe26080d10769d0f785157c83e74465&p=31207282&postcount=1268

. KingRex UD-01:

http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html

https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/posts/352787358128700

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-leckerton-uha-6s-mkii-portable-headphone-amplifier-announced-update-user-impressions-added-july-20th-2012/435#post_8698006

. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703218

. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nuforce10/mobile.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/435#post_8759826

. Objective DAC (ODAC):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8707637

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/ehp-o2d-miniature-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/o2120527192048

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=410941392302962&id=164588276945555

. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/150#post_8538933

. Stoner Acoustics UD100:

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2452730&st=160&p=54596977&#entry54596977

. Syba SD-AUD20101: (optical S/PFIF capable)

http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/375#post_8736082

. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh-TW%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.tpdz.net/produce.asp%3Fid%3D25&usg=ALkJrhhte1Q6A1NnVWodszs9J4x85vGfDg

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871

. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):

http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=Topping+TP-30

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-usb-audio.html

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):

http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8708233

. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xduoo.com%2Fxduoo%2FProductShow.asp%3FID%3D47

http://translate.google.fr/translate?tl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.erji.net/read.php%3Ftid%3D1320392%26page%3De&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dxduoo%2Busb%2Bdac%26hl%3Dfr%26biw%3D910%26bih%3D436%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=4GxdUKTrIaal0AXmr4HoDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQ7gEwAA

I also tried with an y usb cable powered by a belkin usb charger, and no success.

I have seen (in the neutron player or winamp) that the time counter is very speed, five time or more than normal speed when I try to reproduce a song.

what is the exact name of dmesg apps, I see -live dsmeg lite- of chainfire is this?

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBa 

Could you provide a dmesg log output in order to know what is going on at the kernel level between the S3 and the hiFace Two?

 

dmesg:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=dmesg

 

 

1.                                 0x80    bmAttributes   (Bus-powered Device)

2.                                 0xFA    MaxPower   (500 mA)

http://pastebin.com/aGiKSQPc

 

The hiFace Two requires 500 mA.

According to the USB spec, the S3 can only provide 100 mA.

So there is a need to connect the hiFace Two to a S3 via a (battery) powered USB hub, which provides the required 500 mA.

 

 

The USB Audio Driver for ALSA of the S3 is able to drive USB Audio Class 2 (UAC2) devices like the hiFace Two.

https://github.com/sgs3/GT-I9300_Kernel/blob/master/sound/usb/card.c#L2

 

2 *   (Tentative) USB Audio Driver for ALSA

 

227 case UAC_VERSION_1: {

 

246 case UAC_VERSION_2: {

 

i've already tested odac with galaxy note 2 

Confirm stock galaxy note 2 work well with the odac :D

Thanks.

So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S3, the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy Note 2 can work with the iBasso D12 and the ODAC, and has some issue with the HeadAmp Pico.

So, in regard to standard USB audio, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note 2 is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy S3.

so what's the closest thing to the E17 for use with a galaxy s3 AND a pc at the moment? There's a huge list of compatibles which im grateful of but i dont know which are any good :D Needs to be similar form factor to the E17 with battery, both amp and dac in one :)

Add the Nuforce Icon Mobile to the list of DAC's that work with the S3

+ the Icon Mobile has a built in battery and amp,

+ is really small

- The amp is useless and sounds only slightly better than the HPO on the S3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rG-tom 

so what's the closest thing to the E17 for use with a galaxy s3 AND a pc at the moment? There's a huge list of compatibles which im grateful of but i dont know which are any good :D Needs to be similar form factor to the E17 with battery, both amp and dac in one :)

I'm thinking Leckerton's UHA-6S MkII is the closest bet. I'm really hoping the talented Android devs came whip up something by December when my contractends. I was considering the Nexus or SIII, but at this point I might yet end up with a Chinese phone.

Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp) vs FiiO E17 vs Audinst HUD-Mini soon:

http://www.facebook.com/headfonia

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871

"I think we have a new contender for the $100 USB Dac/Amp!"

"Anyway a short comparison to the E10 reveals that the D1 Mk2 is: more spacious by quite a margin. So spacious that I think the Fiio E17 probably will lose on that department as well. The soundstage image is also superior than the E10. Less boomy bass than the E10, but still smooth analog sound with good bass body. Slightly more high treble presence on the Mk2. The biggest surprise is that I was able to use it both with IEMs like the Vsonic Gr07 Mk2 AND big orthos like the Hifiman HE-400!!!! And it drove the Hifiman HE-400 surprisingly well! WOOOHOOOO I'm excited."

"I don't think the D1 is quite HUD-MX1 level (DAC quality) but to the HUD-Mini it should be comparable. Amplifier section, the D1 is more powerful than either Audinsts though."

"I am getting a unit for a review. I can tell you I like the Topping a lot, but I won't say more until I have all three E17, D1 Mk2 and HUD-Mini for comparison."

"We'll review it soon"

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBEG 

 

I'm thinking Leckerton's UHA-6S MkII is the closest bet. I'm really hoping the talented Android devs came whip up something by December when my contractends. I was considering the Nexus or SIII, but at this point I might yet end up with a Chinese phone.

Hmm i had already eyed up the leckerton but its also a huge amount more money, and prices seem fixed as AFAIK you can only buy direct from him? :(