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Samsung Galaxy S3 to DAC - USB Micro-B male to Mini-B male??

post #1 of 63
Thread Starter 

I am trying to determine if a US Samsung Galaxy S3 will output a digital audio stream that will work with my iBasso D10.

 

In order to do this I need to obtain a USB cable to connect them.  I know the D10 accepts a Mini-B male end but I'm not sure that the S3 accepts the Micro-B male end which I expect is 5 pin.

 

I would like to know an answer to this question and where I can buy such a cable.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

post #2 of 63

If your on Jellybean the SIII can output digital via the micro USB, I've got a GSM Galaxy Nexus and I'm waiting for JB from Samsung.

Sorry I can't offer any advice on what type of USB wire is correct.

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post #4 of 63
Thread Starter 

Thank you both for the information and the useful links.  The cables on eBay and Amazon are Micro-B to regular USB (whatever that is called) and I would prefer to go directly to Mini-B but I can use them.  I did find one web page (usb.brando.com) with the Micro-B male to the Mini-B male but I haven't checked them out yet to determine if they're reputable. I expect I'll do that later today.

 

I don't have the Samsung phone at this point but I probably will, at least after it gets Jelly Bean.

 

Thanks again for the help.
 

post #5 of 63
It seems you read too fast.
 
The iBasso D10 is a standard or conventional USB DAC, because it can work with a PC or a Mac: the PC / Mac acts as a USB host, and the standard USB DAC acts as a USB peripheral / device / client.
 
Like a PC / Mac, a current stock Galaxy S3 running on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich can interwork with a standard USB DAC.
You can find a list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the current stock Galaxy S3 at the following link:
 
At the launch of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Google has announced a new type of USB DAC.
An Android-specific USB DAC can’t work with a PC or a Mac; because an Android-specific USB DAC acts as a USB host, and an Android smartphone / tablet should act as a USB peripheral / client.
 

 

 
A prototype of an Android-specific USB DAC / amp, FiiO E18, will be shown next month.
 

 

 
 
A Galaxy S3 is a USB On-The-Go device. It can operate either as a USB host or a USB peripheral.
 
Simply put, when a USB Micro-A plug is inserted in an OTG-featured Galaxy S3, a S3 acts as a USB host, and it could interwork with a standard USB DAC like the iBasso D10 
(USB host <=> USB peripheral: successful USB transaction)
(A device <=> B device: successful USB transaction).
 
When a USB Micro-B plug is inserted in an OTG-featured Galaxy S3, a S3 acts as a USB peripheral / client, and it can’t interwork with a standard USB DAC like the iBasso D10, because the iBasso D10 can only act as a USB peripheral / client among other non-compatible stuff 
(USB peripheral <=> USB peripheral: failed USB transaction)
(B device <=> B device: failed USB transaction).
 
 
A Micro-A plug is a (regular) Micro-B plug where the pin 4 is connected to the pin 5.
 
Before testing the Galaxy S3 with a standard USB DAC via a Micro-A USB OTG cable, this cable should be tested using a simple USB mouse (i.e. USB peripheral) connected to the Galaxy S3 (i.e. USB host).
post #6 of 63
Thread Starter 

DanBa:

 

Thank you very much for the reply.  I got up quite early to take a hike in the mountains and I was in a rush and I only scanned the information at the links you provided.  I just returned from the hike and will study your last post, and information at the links, so that I can understand exactly what it is your saying.  I am not familiar with the types of USB connections but I will know a lot more later today..

 

Thank you again, I appreciate it very much.

post #7 of 63

0.5m USB OTG Cable - Black, Type Micro A to Mini B

 

http://www.lindy-international.com/05m-usb-otg-cable-black-type-micro-a-to-mini-b/31960.html

 

They have something pretty close but you could contact them directly, find out if there were anything else that would match exactly what you are looking for:

 

http://www.terrasip.com/sipfree.php?sip=21100037147

 

Alternatively, xDuoo XP-1 also looked interesting with that cable:

 

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=1320392

post #8 of 63

there you go: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251147285033

 

 

I'm currently in search for micro b male to micro b male OTG tho does any one got any luck?

post #9 of 63
Thread Starter 

Thank you Tamz.  I'll order one of those. If I find a micro b male to micro b male I'll post it here.
 

post #10 of 63

if u can pay for the express just pay for it.

I've wait way too long for mine and it just arrived when I forgot about it.

and I'm about to order OTG cables again too lol.

post #11 of 63

6' USB OTG Micro B to Micro B Patch Cable, BK

http://www.sterenshopusa.com/catalog/prod.asp?p=1349

post #12 of 63

ty

but damn 6inches way too long for an LOD

no other options tho lol


Edited by Tamz - 9/27/12 at 8:15pm
post #13 of 63

Do a search for 506-153 and you will find the shorter version for 3 bucks:

 

http://www.sterenshopusa.com/catalog/prod.asp?p=1348

 

11 dollars here:

 

http://maricindustries.com

 

Both of them provided toll-free numbers so someone in US could call them up at 800-266-3333 and 877-262-5145 to ask some questions:

 

http://www.sterenusa.com/usb-ong-patch-cable-3

 

http://www.sterenusa.com/usb-ong-patch-cable-4

 

The thing is they were talking about 3' and 6' so most likely those units could be in feet rather inches.

 

You could find out if there were anything similar to product number 506-153 that could be ordered in small quantities.

 

Or try calling them with Google Voice for free if you were outside US.

post #14 of 63
Thread Starter 

Tamz:  I tried to buy the cable on eBay but it was blocked.  I'll keep checking because it would help clean up my cabling a bit.

 

However, I just received an alternate solution from Monoprice.  I received a Micro USB OTG Adapter and a 1.5ft USB 2.0 A Male to Mini-B 5pin.

I used these with my Samsung S3 and iBasso D10 and now I am one happy clam. I wasn't sure it was going to be so easy as just plugging everything together but thats all I had to do.  I'm now getting the digital audio out of the S3 into the D10.

post #15 of 63

I found this cable, which is exactly what i've been looking for, but if I got everything right, this wont work as a i want it to Galaxy S3 (With CM10) ->  iBasso D-Zero, because of the Micro B - Mini A connection, right?


Edited by hennnkee - 9/29/12 at 6:23am
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