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post #1516 of 5243

I don't think you can do it , you at least need the technical know how on to programming android to immediately startsthe music player of choice on start and launch you directly to the interface, I don't think it runs with a USB power source either , most of those android sticks I see run from the HDMI port instead

edit:

Okay My mistake it came with a ground plug, I still don't think it won't work without the technical know how


Edited by Retrias - 1/27/13 at 3:42am
post #1517 of 5243
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Originally Posted by Retrias View Post

I don't think you can do it , you at least need the technical know how on to programming android to immediately startsthe music player of choice on start and launch you directly to the interface, I don't think it runs with a USB power source either , most of those android sticks I see run from the HDMI port instead

edit:

Okay My mistake it came with a ground plug, I still don't think it won't work without the technical know how

Well from what I've read,it says there is a music shortcut right on the home page. And, assuming it works like my android phone, i should be able to delete the other icons from the home page right? no programming needed.

 

And, lookie at this:

 

 

 

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The Neo G4 has very low power consumption. It is the only Android Mini PC device that I have managed to run without any issues while powered off the USB port on my TV. I even managed to connect a non-powered USB hub and plugged in a wired mouse, keyboard and a USB thumb drive with all devices working fine.

This was on the provided review of the G4. Assuming i understand this right (and i may be wrong) but this bodes well for powering it using a small cell phone charging battery pack.

post #1518 of 5243
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Originally Posted by thecansmancan View Post

This way, you could simply click and play, skip track, the like using the included (it does come with one right?) IR remote, think early ipod shuffle, no screen needed. 

 

 

It should be possible with some computer script or computer program because such a device is a (miniature) computer.
 
Another option is to add a small TFT monitor.
 

 

 
Above all, the Android mini PC should contribute to create a virtuous cycle for Android USB audio growth: more and more Android-powered devices (Android smartphones, Android tablets, Android mini PCs), more and more USB audio-related Android software, more and more USB DACs.
 
And the future looks bright for Android mini PCs because they are not expensive thanks to the free Android OS.
post #1519 of 5243
But how are ypu going to launch the music app? Does the Neo4 have NFC? If it does you could look in to using that to launch the app nowmcan you get it to play in shuffle may tricky.

Having a screen makes it so much easier.

R-
post #1520 of 5243

There are apps like DroidMote (here) that allow you to control one Android device from another, so if you had an Android phone or tablet you could use that to initialize the app, change songs, etc. I'd say that would be better than using the IR remote anyway. 

 

Or, alternately, you could do something like have the Minix on a switchable power supply and set up a Tasker profile that launches your media player on bootup. That way you could switch on the power supply (there are some with remotes for that, I believe) and it should start right up! Although in this scenario you'd still need a method for changing songs, etc (remote or app like above). 

 

Or, alternately alternately, something like this might work, and it has the added benefit of having a touchscreen, buttons, and a voice input should you want to use that. (If you're looking at one of these, check your local corporate Verizon Wireless store first, b/c I think they have them on sale for like $40 now). 

 

EDIT: the remote in the third option does not technically have a touchscreen, it has a touchpad to control a touchscreen. We deeply regret the error and sincerely apologize to any and all who may have been confused by this report. tongue.gif

 

EDIT Part Deux: the Motorola remote control looks like it needs Bluetooth HID profile support, and the minix.us website does not list the profiles supported by the X5 or G4, so I sent them a message asking about it. I'll post the response when I get it. 


Edited by Theogenes - 1/27/13 at 7:46am
post #1521 of 5243
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Originally Posted by labcoat View Post

But how are ypu going to launch the music app? 

 

The music app can be launched by some Android app like the free Home Switcher:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=home+switcher&c=apps

 

 

 

 

And the music app can be controlled by the included IR remote controller:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by labcoat View Post

Having a screen makes it so much easier.

 

Sure!

post #1522 of 5243

If I were to use one of these for music, I'd probably prefer to use Neutron myself, and I'm thinking the remote provided with the unit probably wouldn't be compatible. But it's pretty darn handy to have one at all, I 'spose!!

post #1523 of 5243
Awesome. Thanks for all the help. So general consensus is it WILL work. It may take a bit of work just getting the music app up. But that free home changer app looked extremely promising. Just to double check, when using that app it would automatically pull up the music app when turning on the device right? And then the IR remote could do the rest of the controlling.

Gee, if this actually works, why would you every pay for an ipod.

Oh and one more question, will the G4 support ALAC file format? B/c right now everythung i have is in ALAC.
post #1524 of 5243
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

The music app can be launched by some Android app like the free Home Switcher:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=home+switcher&c=apps






And the music app can be controlled by the included IR remote controller:






Sure!
nice soloution
post #1525 of 5243
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

If I were to use one of these for music, I'd probably prefer to use Neutron myself, and I'm thinking the remote provided with the unit probably wouldn't be compatible. But it's pretty darn handy to have one at all, I 'spose!!

 

I think it should work because Neutron MP uses the Android media player framework. It should be tested.

 

 

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Originally Posted by thecansmancan View Post

Awesome. Thanks for all the help. So general consensus is it WILL work. It may take a bit of work just getting the music app up. But that free home changer app looked extremely promising. Just to double check, when using that app it would automatically pull up the music app when turning on the device right? And then the IR remote could do the rest of the controlling.

Gee, if this actually works, why would you every pay for an ipod.

Oh and one more question, will the G4 support ALAC file format? B/c right now everythung i have is in ALAC.

 

 

Theoretically, it should work. It should be tested.
 
A lot of people won’t tolerate this too simplistic human machine interface (i.e. only Play, Stop or Next).
 
ALAC-encoded files can be played by Neutron MP.
 
Edit: I can't configure Home Switcher on my stock Samsung Galaxy S3. 
It works with AutoStart:

Edited by DanBa - 1/27/13 at 11:42am
post #1526 of 5243

Generally, I don't think DAC support is a problem for Android (at least with ICS and JB); The Linux kernel contains all the necessary drivers by default. The main problem is finding a Micro-B to a Standard-B cable that can go from one way into the phone and another way into the DAC. Not a problem with iOS stuff.


Edited by Paspie - 1/27/13 at 11:48am
post #1527 of 5243
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Originally Posted by Paul Graham View Post

Unfortunately my S1 is now out of action for a few months until I get the screen fixed :(

I still have the Xperia phone and intend on trying it out on my E17 when the cable arrives.

 

However I wanted to ask a question kind of related but Not quite lol.

 

Blackberry Playbook 64gb. Whats the score with this RIM based tablet folks?

Anything I can do with it or am I just stuck with headphone out on the tablet?

 

Anyone???

post #1528 of 5243
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Paspie View Post

Generally, I don't think DAC support is a problem for Android (at least with ICS and JB); The Linux kernel contains all the necessary drivers by default. The main problem is finding a Micro-B to a Standard-B cable that can go from one way into the phone and another way into the DAC. Not a problem with iOS stuff.

 

Not the case, the drivers may be there, but before the Archos G9 and later the S3 nothing worked with USB DACs. Archos and then Samsung added the support for USB DACs, and now HTC has followed suite. The USB audio in Jelly Bean is not a standard implementation and doesn't work with standard USB DACs without modifications or using something like USB Audio Recorder.

post #1529 of 5243

Has anyone successfully gotten an AudioQuest DragonFly to work with Android natively without USB Audio Recorder PRO?

 

Here's my current setup:

 

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PDQ1S4nzLrw/UQWvLk4_v1I/AAAAAAAAC4g/1tGqqwcre00/s1095/IMG_20130127_174947.jpg

 

External battery powering the DragonFly, with one end of the Y cable going to the DragonFly and the other to the battery, plugged into the Nexus 7 via an OTG cable. I cut off power supply from the Nexus to the DragonFly by taping down the +5V pin on the Y cable, so the only thing powering it is the battery.

 

The Y cable/battery rig works fine when plugged into a computer rather than an Android device. It also works fine with USB Audio Recorder PRO (after tweaking some settings - namely setting the buffer to the highest setting). But Android won't natively output sound to it.

 

I got the idea of running an external battery off a Y cable after reading that some devices might not be able to supply a full 500 mA to the DragonFly, but it seems to work fine on my Nexus 7 with USB Audio Recorder PRO under both circumstances (battery or not). If I can't get this working, I guess I essentially get a battery powered DragonFly, though I'm not sure how clean power coming out of the Powergen battery is compared to my laptop anyway...


Edited by tninety - 1/27/13 at 5:15pm
post #1530 of 5243
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

 

I think it should work because Neutron MP uses the Android media player framework. It should be tested.

 

 

 

 

Theoretically, it should work. It should be tested.
 
A lot of people won’t tolerate this too simplistic human machine interface (i.e. only Play, Stop or Next).
 
ALAC-encoded files can be played by Neutron MP.
 
Edit: I can't configure Home Switcher on my stock Samsung Galaxy S3. 
It works with AutoStart:

You know, personally, i think the simplicity will be a welcome change. I think i'm going to bite the bullet and try it, I'll be sure to report back and confirm.

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