Android phones and USB DACs
Jan 27, 2013 at 9:16 AM Post #1,516 of 9,526
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This way, you could simply click and play, skip track, the like using the included (it does come with one right?) IR remote, think early ipod shuffle, no screen needed. 

 
 
It should be possible with some computer script or computer program because such a device is a (miniature) computer.
 
Another option is to add a small TFT monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=small+TFT+monitor
http://www.skpang.co.uk/blog/archives/541
 
 

 
Above all, the Android mini PC should contribute to create a virtuous cycle for Android USB audio growth: more and more Android-powered devices (Android smartphones, Android tablets, Android mini PCs), more and more USB audio-related Android software, more and more USB DACs.
 
And the future looks bright for Android mini PCs because they are not expensive thanks to the free Android OS.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Android+mini+pc&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AAndroid+mini+pc
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=android+mini+pc&catId=0&manual=y
http://www.squidoo.com/android-mini-pc-buying-guide
http://liliputing.com/tag/mini-pc
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM Post #1,517 of 9,526
But how are ypu going to launch the music app? Does the Neo4 have NFC? If it does you could look in to using that to launch the app nowmcan you get it to play in shuffle may tricky.

Having a screen makes it so much easier.

R-
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 9:42 AM Post #1,518 of 9,526
There are apps like DroidMote (here) that allow you to control one Android device from another, so if you had an Android phone or tablet you could use that to initialize the app, change songs, etc. I'd say that would be better than using the IR remote anyway. 
 
Or, alternately, you could do something like have the Minix on a switchable power supply and set up a Tasker profile that launches your media player on bootup. That way you could switch on the power supply (there are some with remotes for that, I believe) and it should start right up! Although in this scenario you'd still need a method for changing songs, etc (remote or app like above). 
 
Or, alternately alternately, something like this might work, and it has the added benefit of having a touchscreen, buttons, and a voice input should you want to use that. (If you're looking at one of these, check your local corporate Verizon Wireless store first, b/c I think they have them on sale for like $40 now). 
 
EDIT: the remote in the third option does not technically have a touchscreen, it has a touchpad to control a touchscreen. We deeply regret the error and sincerely apologize to any and all who may have been confused by this report. 
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EDIT Part Deux: the Motorola remote control looks like it needs Bluetooth HID profile support, and the minix.us website does not list the profiles supported by the X5 or G4, so I sent them a message asking about it. I'll post the response when I get it. 
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 10:08 AM Post #1,519 of 9,526
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But how are ypu going to launch the music app? 

 
The music app can be launched by some Android app like the free Home Switcher:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=home+switcher&c=apps
 
 

 
 
And the music app can be controlled by the included IR remote controller:
 

 
 
Having a screen makes it so much easier.

 
Sure!
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM Post #1,520 of 9,526
If I were to use one of these for music, I'd probably prefer to use Neutron myself, and I'm thinking the remote provided with the unit probably wouldn't be compatible. But it's pretty darn handy to have one at all, I 'spose!!
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM Post #1,521 of 9,526
Awesome. Thanks for all the help. So general consensus is it WILL work. It may take a bit of work just getting the music app up. But that free home changer app looked extremely promising. Just to double check, when using that app it would automatically pull up the music app when turning on the device right? And then the IR remote could do the rest of the controlling.

Gee, if this actually works, why would you every pay for an ipod.

Oh and one more question, will the G4 support ALAC file format? B/c right now everythung i have is in ALAC.
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM Post #1,523 of 9,526
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If I were to use one of these for music, I'd probably prefer to use Neutron myself, and I'm thinking the remote provided with the unit probably wouldn't be compatible. But it's pretty darn handy to have one at all, I 'spose!!

 
I think it should work because Neutron MP uses the Android media player framework. It should be tested.
 
 
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Awesome. Thanks for all the help. So general consensus is it WILL work. It may take a bit of work just getting the music app up. But that free home changer app looked extremely promising. Just to double check, when using that app it would automatically pull up the music app when turning on the device right? And then the IR remote could do the rest of the controlling.

Gee, if this actually works, why would you every pay for an ipod.

Oh and one more question, will the G4 support ALAC file format? B/c right now everythung i have is in ALAC.

 
 
Theoretically, it should work. It should be tested.
 
A lot of people won’t tolerate this too simplistic human machine interface (i.e. only Play, Stop or Next).
 
ALAC-encoded files can be played by Neutron MP.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=neutron&c=apps
 
Edit: I can't configure Home Switcher on my stock Samsung Galaxy S3. 
It works with AutoStart:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=autostart&c=apps
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 2:47 PM Post #1,524 of 9,526
Generally, I don't think DAC support is a problem for Android (at least with ICS and JB); The Linux kernel contains all the necessary drivers by default. The main problem is finding a Micro-B to a Standard-B cable that can go from one way into the phone and another way into the DAC. Not a problem with iOS stuff.
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM Post #1,525 of 9,526
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Unfortunately my S1 is now out of action for a few months until I get the screen fixed :frowning2:
I still have the Xperia phone and intend on trying it out on my E17 when the cable arrives.
 
However I wanted to ask a question kind of related but Not quite lol.
 
Blackberry Playbook 64gb. Whats the score with this RIM based tablet folks?
Anything I can do with it or am I just stuck with headphone out on the tablet?

 
Anyone???
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM Post #1,526 of 9,526
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Generally, I don't think DAC support is a problem for Android (at least with ICS and JB); The Linux kernel contains all the necessary drivers by default. The main problem is finding a Micro-B to a Standard-B cable that can go from one way into the phone and another way into the DAC. Not a problem with iOS stuff.

 
Not the case, the drivers may be there, but before the Archos G9 and later the S3 nothing worked with USB DACs. Archos and then Samsung added the support for USB DACs, and now HTC has followed suite. The USB audio in Jelly Bean is not a standard implementation and doesn't work with standard USB DACs without modifications or using something like USB Audio Recorder.
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM Post #1,527 of 9,526
Has anyone successfully gotten an AudioQuest DragonFly to work with Android natively without USB Audio Recorder PRO?
 
Here's my current setup:
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PDQ1S4nzLrw/UQWvLk4_v1I/AAAAAAAAC4g/1tGqqwcre00/s1095/IMG_20130127_174947.jpg
 
External battery powering the DragonFly, with one end of the Y cable going to the DragonFly and the other to the battery, plugged into the Nexus 7 via an OTG cable. I cut off power supply from the Nexus to the DragonFly by taping down the +5V pin on the Y cable, so the only thing powering it is the battery.
 
The Y cable/battery rig works fine when plugged into a computer rather than an Android device. It also works fine with USB Audio Recorder PRO (after tweaking some settings - namely setting the buffer to the highest setting). But Android won't natively output sound to it.
 
I got the idea of running an external battery off a Y cable after reading that some devices might not be able to supply a full 500 mA to the DragonFly, but it seems to work fine on my Nexus 7 with USB Audio Recorder PRO under both circumstances (battery or not). If I can't get this working, I guess I essentially get a battery powered DragonFly, though I'm not sure how clean power coming out of the Powergen battery is compared to my laptop anyway...
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 5:53 PM Post #1,528 of 9,526
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I think it should work because Neutron MP uses the Android media player framework. It should be tested.
 
 
 
 
Theoretically, it should work. It should be tested.
 
A lot of people won’t tolerate this too simplistic human machine interface (i.e. only Play, Stop or Next).
 
ALAC-encoded files can be played by Neutron MP.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=neutron&c=apps
 
Edit: I can't configure Home Switcher on my stock Samsung Galaxy S3. 
It works with AutoStart:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=autostart&c=apps

You know, personally, i think the simplicity will be a welcome change. I think i'm going to bite the bullet and try it, I'll be sure to report back and confirm.
 
Jan 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM Post #1,529 of 9,526
USB audio & MK808 Android mini PC:
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/android-mini-pc/uhost2-mk808-supports-audio-usb-dongle-3092.html#post28244
http://www.squidoo.com/mk808-dual-core-android-mini-pc-review
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/mk808/new-android-tv-stick-mk808-running-android-4-1-a-2845.html
 
 
MK808 > digital USB audio out >> USB hub >> USB sound stick >> powered speakers
 
 

 

 
 

 
Jan 27, 2013 at 7:58 PM Post #1,530 of 9,526
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Posted by thecansmancan : You know, personally, i think the simplicity will be a welcome change. I think i'm going to bite the bullet and try it, I'll be sure to report back and confirm.

Hi,
I don't know if it will help but if you were using your Minix G4 rig at home or where you are connected to a network, you may be able to use Bubble UPnP as it has a setting to open on boot up. I do not know if the remote could be used with this but it can be controlled with a 'phone. I have recently been experimenting with a Samsung Note 10.1 connected via a hub to a Behringer UCA202 dac and an external powered drive, the output from the dac going to my hifi and controlling it all with a Samsung 4.2 media player ( which is just like a 'phone but does not make 'phone calls ! )  Bubble UPnP is installed on both the tab and the media player, with the media player acting as the controller and the tab the renderer.
 

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