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post #1321 of 2352
1/9/13 at 11:26pm
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

News on Pico DAC & Pico DAC/Amp compatibility with Samsung Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S3 (International version)

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It's been reported that the Pico DAC/Amp doesn't work with the Galaxy Note II or Galaxy S3 (international version) -- except with a powered hub -- but does work just fine with the north american Galaxy S3. 

 

I've acquired a Galaxy Note II to figure out the problem.

 

Progress has been made and it is working right now.  However, it's likely that a fix will require:

- A small component swap on the Pico circuit board which does not change performance

or possibly

- A custom-made USB cable

 

I prefer the first solution.  Once a solution is finalized, you may send your Pico to me to have the change made, free of charge, just pay the shipping costs.  New orders will ship with the change already in place .

 

Those who are 'in charge' of the compatibility lists of phones/DACs feel free to update the info.

 

 

Kudos to HeadAmp !
 
Unlike a lot of USB DAC manufacturers, HeadAmp has tested and fixed the Galaxy S3/Note2 - HeadAmp Pico interworking issue.
 
HeadAmp Pico is one of the most interesting USB DAC/amp:
"At present have the HeadAmp Pico, RSA Intruder, and Leckteron UHA-6S.MKII. Was using the Pico with my US S3 and just love its sound, the other two are truly excellent in their own right, but their sound signatures just don't gel for me quite as much as the Pico." 
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post #1322 of 2352
1/10/13 at 3:43am
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Just fantastic news, can't wait to get mine adjusted!

 

Justin has been emailing me quite a bit as he's worked through the troubleshooting, so I've had a little inside window into the process, which has been very interesting.

 

Hopefully tomorrow I'll get to see whether the Pico remains my favourite after testing my Apex Glacier :)

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post #1323 of 2352
1/10/13 at 3:45am
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

Good news from the developer of Neutron Music Player:
http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3163&f=4#p3163

"If some generalized audio output API is provided by developer of USB Audio Recorder Pro then it would be great and Neutron would support it as one of additional output drivers. In the future it also worth trying to develop own USB soft-driver too."
Excellent news indeed!
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post #1324 of 2352
1/10/13 at 5:38am

I have got the xDuoo XP-1 in today!

 

Blog Post:

 

http://www.inearspace.co.uk/inearspace/News/Entries/2013/1/10_Entry_1.html

 

Unboxing Video:

 

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post #1325 of 2352
1/10/13 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

 

Yes!

 

As far as I understand the developer of the USB Audio Recorder PRO app opted for the USB "soft driver" solution.

 

Moreover, he proposes to provide a USB Audio Android Service at the user space so that legacy music players like Neutron MP could use this USB audio service instead of the USB audio driver at the kernel.

http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidServices/article.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1260#post_9015714

 

That would be absolutely EXCELLENT!!! Thank you for the reply, DanBa!!

 

A couple of thoughts: 

 

1). I know we might have Davy working on it as we speak, but I'm curious about whether anyone else would be interested in contributing to an incentive pot-- and if so, what the best way to set one up would be!

 

2). I can confirm that neither the iBasso D6 nor the Nuforce uDac-2 work with the GS3 with stock software (rooted Jelly Bean on Verizon). They both output no sound and the music player on the phone appears to play but does so much faster than normal. 

 

3). Although it has already been mentioned, I can confirm that the NwAvGuy ODAC does work with the GS3 with stock software (rooted Jelly Bean on Verizon).

 

4). Anybody know if there is any actual fix for the the whole sped-up playback issue listed in #2 above? Because I would REALLY like to be able to use my D6 as an all-in-one DAC/amp for my portable rig... I'm guessing the answer is 'no,' but it's worth a shot!!!

 

Also, kudos to Davy and Dmitry for being so positive and responsive to customer requests!!! :)

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post #1326 of 2352
1/10/13 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by Drum747 View Post

Hi guys, a quick question. I have a Note 2 and I was looking at the e07k but since it is not confirmed yet I have started to explore other options like the D zero. My question is since the D Zero has no bass or treble boost can I utilize the players EQ (Neutron, Playerpro, etc.) if necessary while using the dac on the D zero? Or does the audio out of the USB to the dac negate the internal EQ? Thanks!

You can use internal EQ's.

Currently using the D-Zero with spotify's EQ, no problem

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post #1327 of 2352
1/10/13 at 10:29am

Can anyone one confirm if the Audinst hud-mx1 dac/amp works with the Galaxy S3? Can't seem to find anyone info on this pairing anywhere. Much appreciated.

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post #1328 of 2352
1/10/13 at 10:41am

I have a Fiio E17 headamp and unfortunately it doesn't work with my Asus Transformer Infinity and Samsung Galaxy S3 (both running on Jelly Bean).

Can anyone confirm if the above devices works with the AudioQuest Dragonfly?

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post #1329 of 2352
1/10/13 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

I have got the xDuoo XP-1 in today!

 

Blog Post:

 

http://www.inearspace.co.uk/inearspace/News/Entries/2013/1/10_Entry_1.html

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Unboxing Video:

 

 

 

 

Nice! Look forward to hearing more about it.

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post #1330 of 2352
1/10/13 at 11:19pm

what battery life are people seeing with the dragonfly? If it's being powered off the device, I'm guessing it's sucking down your juice like no tomorrow.

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post #1331 of 2352
1/11/13 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by BBEG View Post

The following setup does not work:

 

 

Meizu MX > Micro B to Mini B USB cable > MATRIX USB to SPDIF converter > SPDIF coax cable > FiiO E17 via FiiO's included coax adapter > Philips Uptown

 

 

There are a number of possible reasons this is not working. First, the MX does not provide power through its USB port, which the MATRIX converter requires. However, the converter's indicator light is blue; I'm not sure if this means it's just on, or it's on and working. The micro B to mini B cable may not be working, but I'm no electrical engineer and couldn't say why. The E17 might not be working, although other reviews have shown it to handle SPDIF input (both coax and optical) just fine.

 

Unfortunately, there is not a useful way to test this since I don't think the bits will be sent through a powered USB hub to the MATRIX converter. This means the only thing realistically I can change to test is the cable connecting the MX and the MATRIX. I haven't found another provider of a micro B to mini B cable...

It could be your android version! I see meizu uses android 2.x.

There were kernel updates about usb_audio in Jelly Bean (4.x).

 

-Who tried this on JB?

 

I mean:

Android phone ---> small usb to spdif converter ----> SPDIF coax cable ---> into Fiio E17 spdif in  ----> headphones

 

note that fiio e17 is a dac and amp, not only amp.

All of this because I heard that fiio e17 draws more than 150ma from usb, so a lot of phones don't allow it to be recognized without using a powered usb hub.

 

----> do usb to spdif works with latest android updates or cyanogen?

 

BTW this works great on ipads (IIRC apple's usb is limited to under 100ma so it doesn't allow the e17 via usb/cck without a powered hub.)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/587912/fiio-e17-alpen-first-impression-final-thought/3585#post_8420366

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post #1332 of 2352
1/11/13 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

 

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

 

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-dac-usb-micro-b-male-to-mini-b-male#post_8735134

 

 

FYI the iBasso D10 does not work with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus(which is odd since it is also running 4.2 Jellybean). It does work with Audio Recorder Pro but with lots of crackling. Supposedly the Android OS does not support Isochronous transfers/endpoints(which most DACs seem to use), though many of the players seem to work anyway(proprietary Samsung code, maybe?). I'm thinking I should just sell it and get an Amp/DAC combo that works properly with stock Android like the Apex Glacier or Headamp Pico...sigh.

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post #1333 of 2352
1/11/13 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by Drum747 View Post

Hi guys, a quick question. I have a Note 2 and I was looking at the e07k but since it is not confirmed yet I have started to explore other options like the D zero. My question is since the D Zero has no bass or treble boost can I utilize the players EQ (Neutron, Playerpro, etc.) if necessary while using the dac on the D zero? Or does the audio out of the USB to the dac negate the internal EQ? Thanks!

Sorry, forgot to confirm earlier.  Already tested this with my Note 2 with my cousin's recently bought Fiio e07k.

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post #1334 of 2352
1/11/13 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Euphonik View Post

 

FYI the iBasso D10 does not work with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus(which is odd since it is also running 4.2 Jellybean). It does work with Audio Recorder Pro but with lots of crackling. 

 

As far as I know the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without using the USB Audio Recorder PRO app doesn’t work with any USB DAC.

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post #1335 of 2352
1/11/13 at 1:35pm

"Android USB OTG cable" from iBasso: Micro-A plug to Mini-B plug

http://www.head-fi.org/t/571116/review-ibasso-d-zero-with-fiio-e7-comparison/30#post_9043607

http://www.dcfever.com/trading/view.php?itemID=1768224

 

"D-Zero USB OTG hooked up to Galaxy S3. Works like a charm…

This is nice... I just received an iBasso D-Zero bought directly from the manufacturer. I had no idea that a short USB OTG cable is included in the box now.

The cable is marked iBasso Audio - Android 4.0 & Above USB OTG Cable.

 

Kudos to iBasso for keeping ahead of the game!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

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