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Jan 9, 2015 at 6:49 AM Post #21,781 of 65,724
Wonder what's the difference with the non-e and e drivers (I mean technically and material-wise). Saw pictures and the e drivers are markedly different materials/color, looks cheaper. I'm not an expert though, so I may be seeing superficial stuff.

i don't know, my only experience with "e" models is the 325, and gs1k, and in both cases, i liked the "e" better
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 7:42 AM Post #21,782 of 65,724
 
For the record, I feel the exact same way about Nirvana. I have a loathing for that band that transcends intense dislike- I save that for the Beatles and the Stones.
 
  And while such strong emotions may be uncomfortable, I own mine, brother. I'm also relieved to read someone else admit it. Lots of Nirvana-defenders out there!
 
That being case, they do sound pretty darn good on the tape-modded SR-225i's. 
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I just wonder about people 'hating' a band or music. Feels a bit too me like complaining there's nothing on TV, when there's so much to experience in a lifetime.
 
Why do you feel such loathing for Nirvana? I'm genuinely curious, not trolling. Is it because they became the masthead for grunge while you think other bands are more deserving of that position? Or does their music set your teeth on edge?
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 7:49 AM Post #21,783 of 65,724
This is where parents' importance comes in. As Charles Barkley said when people criticized many of his antics and comments and was told by many to be responsible as kids are adoring, idolizing and watching him and, therefore, would likely copy/follow him, and I'm paraphrasing: "I'm not your kids parents, so I'm not supposed to be the one to raise them!" LOL

Who listens to their parents anymore?
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But I agree with the artists. I write about murder and mayhem and my books have a disclaimer in the back for copycats. If someone shoots himself though the head after listening to Judas Priest, you can't blame the artist. If your children turn up Marilyn Manson in their room, maybe they spotted your Alice Cooper albums in the basement.
 
Also, for some people, listening to depressing music makes them shoot themselves, while the real dark stuff always tends to cheer me up. Maybe I'm just weird.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 7:53 AM Post #21,784 of 65,724
 
For the record, I feel the exact same way about Nirvana. I have a loathing for that band that transcends intense dislike- I save that for the Beatles and the Stones.


Just wanted to add, I think the Rolling Stones should've stopped when they were still relevant. After Some Girls in 1978. *Ducks and runs*
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 10:24 AM Post #21,785 of 65,724
  Is the GS1000 supposed to be the 'classical' Grado headphone? The one best suited to classical music. How good is it for jazz ?

From what I've always read, yes, its supposed to be the best Grado for Classical music.
I'm sure Jazz would sound just fine too, because I listen to Jazz 80% (or more) of the time with any of my Grados and it sounds great!
 
  Grado PS1000 and its HPA-1 amp OR my Sennheiser HD 800 and its HDVD 800 DAC amp (tie)
Grado HP1000 HP1
AKG K3003i IEM
Grado RS1i and its RA-1 amp
Beyerdynamic T 5 p
 
The remainder of the 40 or so, as shown on my profile, are below these.

Thank, like I said I was just curious as to which you preferred to listen to.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:01 AM Post #21,786 of 65,724
I'm rarely an unbiased fan of someone - no matter how brilliant someone might be, there's always the human flaw.
 

I was more moved by an even-handed tribute of a well-known classical composer at the funeral I went to of another well-known compoer, than by any of the chirpy one-sided all-good tributes by others.  Good point!
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:17 AM Post #21,787 of 65,724
Say what you want about Nirvana, but their MTV Unplugged in New York album is pure magic with Grados. Unlike most bands who recorded MTV Unplugged, Nirvana did it in one take and you can hear some amazing detail (and mess-ups :) ). The vocal reproduction is superb. I am not a big fan of Nirvana, but this album I can listen to over and over with my grados. 
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:26 AM Post #21,788 of 65,724
Say what you want about Nirvana, but their MTV Unplugged in New York album is pure magic with Grados. Unlike most bands who recorded MTV Unplugged, Nirvana did it in one take and you can hear some amazing detail (and mess-ups :) ). The vocal reproduction is superb. I am not a big fan of Nirvana, but this album I can listen to over and over with my grados. 


Agreed.

Two other unplugged albums with really good production values: Eric Clapton Unplugged and (don't laugh) Katy Perry. Katy Perry is backed by a really tight band, and the songlist features a jazzy version of I Kissed A Girl and a beautiful version of Hackensack
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:30 AM Post #21,789 of 65,724
  Say what you want about Nirvana, but their MTV Unplugged in New York album is pure magic with Grados. Unlike most bands who recorded MTV Unplugged, Nirvana did it in one take and you can hear some amazing detail (and mess-ups :) ). The vocal reproduction is superb. I am not a big fan of Nirvana, but this album I can listen to over and over with my grados. 

 
Agreed, feel the same way. Sounds good through a resolving stereo system as well.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM Post #21,790 of 65,724
Agreed.

Two other unplugged albums with really good production values: Eric Clapton Unplugged and (don't laugh) Katy Perry. Katy Perry is backed by a really tight band, and the songlist features a jazzy version of I Kissed A Girl and a beautiful version of Hackensack


I am going to have to listen to both those albums. I do (secretly) enjoy Katy Perry at times.
 
Unfortunately I have no had a chance to get to Music Direct and Audio Consultants in Chicago because of the sub-zero temperatures. 
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:53 AM Post #21,791 of 65,724
 
I have never listen through Sennheiser's their tonal foot print compared to Grado's are?


At first blush, my comment is that the Sennheiser HD 800 has a larger soundstage and, when properly amplified e.g. with Sennheiser's own HDVD 800 or HDVA 600, has more bass.  Grados have more of a transparent, you-are-there, nothing-between-you-and-the-music feel and excels at high-frequency impulses such as cymbals.
 
I plan to eventually do a systematic listening test among the PS1000, the HD 800, the HP1000, and maybe the T 5 p (my test mechanism is really set up for three-way, not four-way comparison so I may not include the T 5 p, besides mine is not burned in yet).
 
The comments above are sort of consistent with a comparison of the frequency response of the HD 800 (red) and the PS 1000 (blue):
 

The PS1000 bass drops below that of the HD800 at around the lowest G on the piano keyboard, while it provides an extra boost to the high frequencies, culminating in a significant edge over the HD 800 in the range from 6,000 Hz to 10,000 Hz, which is above the piano keyboard but is where higher harmonics and (more importantly) the impact of snare drums and cymbals is strong.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 12:19 PM Post #21,792 of 65,724
I am going to have to listen to both those albums. I do (secretly) enjoy Katy Perry at times.

Unfortunately I have no had a chance to get to Music Direct and Audio Consultants in Chicago because of the sub-zero temperatures. 


I believe Grado Labs uses Eric Clapton Unplugged for testing headphones.

Two other albums you might enjoy:

Stanley Clarke - School Days
Nils Petter Molvaer - Khmer
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 12:29 PM Post #21,793 of 65,724
I believe Grado Labs uses Eric Clapton Unplugged for testing headphones.

Two other albums you might enjoy:

Stanley Clarke - School Days
Nils Petter Molvaer - Khmer
I highly recommend Stanley Clarke - School Days.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 12:34 PM Post #21,794 of 65,724
Been away from the music for a few days, but I did score some throw back CD's from Target today. It's amazing how stepping back for awhile gives me greater appreciation for what I've got and how constantly chasing higher resolution thru gear improvement isn't really all that necessary IMHO.Yeah, I know, what's with the Kid Rock? It's because I really like the last cut "WCSR" he does with Snoop Dogg.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM Post #21,795 of 65,724
  Say what you want about Nirvana, but their MTV Unplugged in New York album is pure magic with Grados. Unlike most bands who recorded MTV Unplugged, Nirvana did it in one take and you can hear some amazing detail (and mess-ups :) ). The vocal reproduction is superb. I am not a big fan of Nirvana, but this album I can listen to over and over with my grados. 

I had mentioned this in almost your exact words.
This Cd sounds incredible with Grado's, and the songs performed on this Cd are some of their best IMO.
 

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