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post #601 of 1522
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you do end up comparing the T5p with the D7k. I've never heard the Denons myself, but judging solely based on reputation, I'd be surprised if they were on the same level. But again, this is based on the opinions of others, so it would be intriguing to hear the thoughts of somebody with both sets handy to compare. 

 

I have the impression that many underestimate amplification for Denon AH-Dx000. Yes, they're sensitive, but they need amplifier control. Some amplifiers succeed, others don't. Grace Design m903 does a very good job.

 

I've read quiet a bit about Denon AH-D7000 and AH-D5000, and heard both. I can relate to some of it, typically the ones I believe have used them with good, well suited amplification, but I have often thought that this or that person haven't heard the headphone well amplified and hence at its best, or he's playing at very high loudness levels or something else you shouldn't do.

post #602 of 1522
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But I knew that at the end of the night, I'll get to lay down, listening to 100th Window on my T5p and reading on my tablet until I fall asleep. And that's a heck of a powerful motivation for me ;)

 

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I'm still thinking about third party cables, although I think the stock is not bad at all.

post #603 of 1522
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Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

I have the impression that many underestimate amplification for Denon AH-Dx000. Yes, they're sensitive, but they need amplifier control. Some amplifiers succeed, others don't. Grace Design m903 does a very good job.

 

I've read quiet a bit about Denon AH-D7000 and AH-D5000, and heard both. I can relate to some of it, typically the ones I believe have used them with good, well suited amplification, but I have often thought that this or that person haven't heard the headphone well amplified and hence at its best, or he's playing at very high loudness levels or something else you shouldn't do.

 

Fair enough. Although it does amaze me when people have wonderful, high-end headphones they're amplifying with some wholly outclassed amplifier. As much as I love my Yulong D100 DAC, and as great as most of my headphones and IEMs sound out of it, it simply removes the magic of the LCD2 when I pair those together. Sometimes headphones really do need a proper amp to really show you what they've got!

 

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I'm still thinking about third party cables, although I think the stock is not bad at all.

 

Me too. I've spoken with a number of different companies, and it appears that Moon Audio and BTG Audio can both modify the T5p to have mini-XLR connector (like Audez'e) mounted inside the earcup itself. I'm sending mine off to Sound Surgeon first to have a few things fixed, but once I get them back, I'll be having them modded for the mini-XLRs and using some of the cables I originally purchased for the LCDs on them to see if it makes a difference. I'm actually particularly looking forward to using a set of Q-Audio cables I have, because they are ergonomically the best damn cables I've ever seen or heard of, and they would be a PERFECT match for the T5p... as long as they sound great ;). 

 

If you do end up trying some other cables out, let us know how you get on! For the record, of the Moon Audio cables available, Drew recommended the Black Dragon as a good fit for the T5p, although there's a set available in the F/S forum right now that have the Blue Dragon hardwired, which I'm guessing would sound nice as well. 

post #604 of 1522

Anyone compared the DT1350's to the T5"s. I have been eye balling the T5's for some time and truing to convince myself whether to get them or keep my 1350's. Wondering how much of a increase are they over the 1350's.

post #605 of 1522
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Anyone compared the DT1350's to the T5"s. I have been eye balling the T5's for some time and truing to convince myself whether to get them or keep my 1350's. Wondering how much of a increase are they over the 1350's.

 

I have both, they are vastly different in sound. I could not exchange one for the other. 

post #606 of 1522
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I have both, they are vastly different in sound. I could not exchange one for the other. 

Agreed. The DT-1350 is darker sounding and has more bass impact compared to T5p. The T5p has better imaging and resolution. Both are pleasing in each their own way.

 

Also I see that Meier Audio now has the T5p on his homepage again. I think it deserves to be there among HD800, HD700, T1 and Signature Pro. http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de

It pairs very well with the Quickstep for portable use and for home use the Concerto / Classic makes it shine. 

post #607 of 1522

T5p allows me to enjoy music that is most often difficult to reproduce. It has the best all round balance of qualities for my tastes. T5p's sound signature is certainly not for everyone. It is a luxury product, not a pro work tool like DT1350. 

post #608 of 1522

I think the T5p outclass the Fostex HP-P1. Is there a portable DAC/amp out there that clearly outclass the T5p?

post #609 of 1522
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I think the T5p outclass the Fostex HP-P1. Is there a portable DAC/amp out there that clearly outclass the T5p?

Maybe the Apex Glacier? Or CLAS dB+ALO RX MKIII? But I never heard them. I am using the ODAC+Quickstep and it is a powerful combination and sounds great with the T5p. I also enjoy the iQube very much as a great amplifier for T5p. So maybe the iQube V3 could be good with the T5p. I never heard the iQube V2 or V3 so I am not familiar with the DAC's performance. But the good thing for me with the iQube+T5p is that it is a very bright and open sounding combination. For those who do not like the bright side of the T5p they might not want to emphasize its treble with the iQube but rather put some more punch to the low end. 

post #610 of 1522
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Maybe the Apex Glacier? Or CLAS dB+ALO RX MKIII? But I never heard them. I am using the ODAC+Quickstep and it is a powerful combination and sounds great with the T5p. I also enjoy the iQube very much as a great amplifier for T5p. So maybe the iQube V3 could be good with the T5p. I never heard the iQube V2 or V3 so I am not familiar with the DAC's performance. But the good thing for me with the iQube+T5p is that it is a very bright and open sounding combination. For those who do not like the bright side of the T5p they might not want to emphasize its treble with the iQube but rather put some more punch to the low end. 

 

I thinking something as well made as the above mentioned, but costing in the $2k price range, this may put a significant challenge to the T5p, a fairly balanced fund distribution for the system. Possibly it's simply a matter of waiting for advances in technology, as in new opamps or ability to eliminate them reasonably with portable goals.

post #611 of 1522

No way B&W P5 can be compared to the T5, my friend....

post #612 of 1522
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No way B&W P5 can be compared to the T5, my friend....

Wha?

post #613 of 1522

Someone wrote some time ago that the beyerdynamic T 5 p needs a long time of run in. For several reasons, including other things to do, mine has been lying on the table running in for way more than 1000 hours, possibly around 1500, but I need to sum the hours before I know.

 

For context: Lately I have mainly listened to Sennheiser HD 800 out of EAR Yoshino HP4 fed from Lynx Hilo as DAC. Yesterday I also listened to Sennheiser HD 650 out of Grace Design m903 as DAC + headphone amplifier. This may be of importance for the following observations.

 

This afternoon I picked up the beyerdynamic T 5 p again running out of Lynx Hilo as DAC + headphone amplifier. My first impression is as if the day or soup is much clearer/less opaque than some weeks ago. I may of course have a good/different day today, be in a different mood or something. I don't know, and this is definitely not any way near scientific. It's more of a surprise really. I think the T 5 p may have become much more like the T 1, but I have to check that.

 

I think I'll stop for now, but has anyone else observed something (remotely) similar?

 

Appendix:

... very nice. Dinah and I, shielded from the world with (the help of) beyerdynamic T 5 p - top end sparkle and all.


Edited by CDWMcInSpots - 3/17/13 at 9:04am
post #614 of 1522

My T5p are never idle. Probably about 3 months continuous operation. I use them exclusively for acoustic recordings. I use the T5p with a Fostex HP-P1 for convenience, as a significant installation would be too cumbersome. The system works well and has only gotten better. Although I do miss some of the clarity, dynamics, tonal quality etc of home I can get by with T5p/P1. 

 

ADD: So the T5p/P1 is enjoyable, seems to get better with use, and I can focus on getting music.


Edited by AJHeadfi - 3/17/13 at 7:23pm
post #615 of 1522

I really like T5p with the WA7, but even the humble FiiO E17 delivers surprisingly good results.

I also noticed that it takes time to really like them, but I'm not sure if it was the headphones changing the way they sound or me getting used to it.

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