Audio GD Phoenix + HD800 + ?
Mar 26, 2010 at 2:16 AM Post #16 of 81
For a BNC cable go with Blue Jeans Cable's Belden 1694A. I have tried various lengths and I found 18 feet to be the ideal length in my system. With the HiFace you may experience different results, so it wouldn't hurt to get a 5 footer and an 18 footer. They are fairly cheap.

The Furutech FP702 is nothing special, but will do the job just fine. The Locus Design XLR looks nicer though. The Furutech that is supposedly really good is the FP601M, but it's very pricey. I have it on my HD800 cables. How much of a difference they make from other connectors is hard to say.
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 2:44 AM Post #17 of 81
Thanks for info, but tell me, how does cable length affect sound? Can it, atually?

Or is it only the matter of the "easy to use" (not too short and not too long) length between the rig and hiFace?
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 5:08 AM Post #18 of 81
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Thanks for info, but tell me, how does cable length affect sound? Can it, atually?

Or is it only the matter of the "easy to use" (not too short and not too long) length between the rig and hiFace?


Short/Long not even an issue. I have no need for an 18 foot cable. I only need 4 - 5 feet. But the 18 footer sounds better which is why I use it. It's coiled up. Center imaging is more precise and notes are less blurred.

It affects sound because of signal reflections that can be caused by impedance mismatch. But even if you are using 75 ohm BNC connectors on both ends, the cable length does make a difference. Try it for yourself. You can always return one to BJC or sell it.
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 9:02 AM Post #19 of 81
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Short/Long not even an issue. I have no need for an 18 foot cable. I only need 4 - 5 feet. But the 18 footer sounds better which is why I use it. It's coiled up. Center imaging is more precise and notes are less blurred.

It affects sound because of signal reflections that can be caused by impedance mismatch. But even if you are using 75 ohm BNC connectors on both ends, the cable length does make a difference. Try it for yourself. You can always return one to BJC or sell it.


Ye, I'll do that because BJC aren't expensive. It suprizes me, that after spending thousands on Audio-Gd and HiFace i can buy decent cable for mere 30$
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If I can experiment with the rig, here's the cheap opportunit, and i like it
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Someone would say that those are just 0's and 1's, but its worth to check it on my own if You say, that cable length has anything to do with sound. Thanks for the tip mate
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Mar 26, 2010 at 1:28 PM Post #21 of 81
How does DHC Nucleotide wire sound like in Audio-GD gear? Has it improve things in terms of SQ? I wonder how high quality silver wire in digital sections of Audio-GD gear could improve things also.
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM Post #22 of 81
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How does DHC Nucleotide sound like in Audio-GD gear? Has it improve things in terms of SQ? I wonder what high quality silver wire would do in digital sections of Audio-GD gear.


They are expensive. I wouldn't give that amount of money for them. Maybe buying 25ft. of Jena or Cryo wire and XLR plugs, and soldering it @home will do the trick?
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 1:51 PM Post #23 of 81
Per foot, the Nucleotide is around $2, whereas the Jena is $5. I think you were thinking of the finished cables.
 
Mar 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM Post #24 of 81
Ye mate
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That's what i meant. Any ideas if someone should invest in Jena or Nucleotide wire with hd800? They sound difrently or one of them is better than the other?
 
Mar 30, 2010 at 12:19 PM Post #25 of 81
Ok, and what about cable for HD800? 18 or 22? HQ Silver or HQ Copper? Any ideas what will fit best?
 
Mar 30, 2010 at 4:18 PM Post #27 of 81
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When choosing headphone cables it's a good idea to know what kind of sound you want to change to.


Hmm...it's hard for me to say it now, because i don't have a clue, what might Phoenix and HD800 combo sound like. I am a fan of well separated instruments, clarity, big soundstage and punchy bass, but idk if it will tell someone something. And what about gauge of cables? I mean, bigger gauge is better or what? I know that difference between 22 and 18 is obvious, but can someone tell me what kind should I use with hd800? I know also, that hd800 connector is quite small, but... that changes anything?
 
Mar 30, 2010 at 4:52 PM Post #28 of 81
People have said the HD800 cable is decent, and Sennheiser did do research to choose the SPC OFC the HD800 uses. I suggest you listen first and let everything burn in for 500-1000 hours and seeing if it has enough of what you want before changing the cable.

Bigger gauge is likely better in the scenario of, say, 30 awg vs. 21 awg 10 foot cable. But if you're comparing 18 awg vs 22 awg 10 foot cable, I think there will be a lot of different opinions on what is better/necessary. Not only gauge and material and purity matter however (assume for the moment cables do make a difference), there's also dielectric, braiding geometry, shielding, vibration control, connectors, and length to consider, because these are factors which are believed by some to change the sound just as much as gauge and material.
 
Mar 30, 2010 at 5:08 PM Post #29 of 81
I think that silver is way too bright for analog tasks like headphone cables.
I'd go for pure cryotreated copper for analog tasks like headphone recabling and pure cryotreated silver for digital cables.
 
Mar 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM Post #30 of 81
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People have said the HD800 cable is decent, and Sennheiser did do research to choose the SPC OFC the HD800 uses. I suggest you listen first and let everything burn in for 500-1000 hours and seeing if it has enough of what you want before changing the cable.

Bigger gauge is likely better in the scenario of, say, 30 awg vs. 21 awg 10 foot cable. But if you're comparing 18 awg vs 22 awg 10 foot cable, I think there will be a lot of different opinions on what is better/necessary. Not only gauge and material and purity matter however (assume for the moment cables do make a difference), there's also dielectric, braiding geometry, shielding, vibration control, connectors, and length to consider, because these are factors which are believed by some to change the sound just as much as gauge and material.


Thanks mate. My goal is to have balanced cable, because Kingwa told me, that Phoenix has much more better XLR's than SE. I think i'll go copper then.
 
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