Just be patient.  Take time to burn it in as during this burn in period you might feel you've bought the wrong IEM and was a waste of money.  After that 200 something hours, please come back and give us your assessment.

Hi H20...while you have both Ref.1 & the P5, do you find that the "texture" of the bass are different when compared both?  I "bet" Ref.1 has a better texture of bass from it's dynamic bass units.  Please offer your observations.   Cheers

Give your pair some 200 hours to break it in (if they are new) and by then you'd have a better balance across all spectrums.

Likely you've bought these fake ones from the Chinese market...     https://world.taobao.com/item/25174324254.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.qA6WAA#detail

No worries CraftyC.  Our hearing starts getting worse once past forty.  The good thing is that the majority of the music won't need 13,500khz or beyond and you'd only miss some bit of the nuance if your system is good enough.   I can share my "cable" experience with you and if you'd need a...

Owning the Ref.1 (or Too) without the Uber Too (I'd recommend the Uber Too as it seems more versatile in terms of mobility) is a big miss.  Your Tera/Ref.1 Too combo will go to a new level that you'd pleased with the investment [on the Too].

Did audition the Ref.1 Too when it was at its final prototype stage before went in production.  I do not own the Too.    The Too has a different bass structure as well as a different balance between all 3 spectrums (from low to high) when compared to the original (to which more emphasis on the...

Don't have the Uber Too only have the original Uber and has been using it for the last 3 years.     Should you identify your Ref.1 Too or Ref.1 as your primary IEM and I don't think the venture to experimenting with other cables in trying to harvest  better outcome than that of the Ubers...

Yes.   THE UBER cable.  As each and every new day I'm listening to it I've found new joy.

To my knowledge, Ref1 was using a 3rd party Isobaric/k dynamic driver whereas the Ref.1 Too using in-house bass driver with the same Isobaric/k set up.   I have a very vague impression on the Ref.1 Too back to an audition in the final prototype stage that Gavin let me.   I've found the Ref.1...

Over the last 3 decades I invested in thousands of dollars in hi-fi and not once that I care about the manufacturing process nor the material used for such...as those are information, whether that is proprietary or using average industry opened technologies, that is irrelevant to the end result...

Ref.1 has very good bass with "texture" and it can be had with the Tralucent stock silver/gold cable...if you want the ultimate...then you need the Tralucent Uber cable.  Synergy is one thing hard to achieve in hi fi while Tralucent spent time on testing to achieve the best results from their...

There is a high chance that your change [to Rhapsodio Solar] is just for a different sound signature but not necessarily for something better.  As these high end IEMs (no knowledge on Rhapsodio Solar's pricing though as I'm not interested in)  have already performed in a very high level and only...

Vorzüge Duo or Vorzüge Pure.  Size wise and sound wise very good synergy with TP...don't forget to get an Uber interconnector cable from Gavin for best results.

Absolutely.  The sound matters...period...what else we need to know about?  Focusing on enjoying the music rather...is that something that we all striding for?

The answer is simple...the sound...not the material used.

Top line please.  Of course, if you have time to write detail comparisons please do.   Cheers

Hey Warrior,   Could you please cite any examples of your preference of P5 over Ref.1?

The Tralucent Uber Too will be your ultimate choice.  Anything other than uber will be at a lower level IMHO.

I have not auditioned the P5 and not able to comment.  However, with its all-BA set up it will have a very different character than that of the Ref.1 Too.  Bearing in mind that Ref.1 Too/Ref.1 both are using very unique isobaric configuration that distant itself from other IEMs (to which IMHO...

Musicday.  You will find new level of joy with the Ref.1 Too and for sure it's one of the best partner to your TP.

To be fair [to Smial]...the king of repetition [on this thread] is...M........, not Smial.   Not until one owns a reasonably good transducer [rather than the Koss PP], , it is not difficult to draw the same conclusions [the TP is the best] regardless numerous assessments from others [former TP...

My original uber has been with me for over 3 years now and still going strong.  I did use it over a few over the Pacific long haul flights and not a problem with it while on mobile.   I must admit that I always using it with cautions and care with 95% with static indoor usage.   Cheers 

You won't miss much [for not able to audition the Tera] in fact my friend. It's more of a myth for those never had one. For true analog sound, don't see any current DAPs could come close to the true analogue sound...try out Walkmans in those old days for a few minutes then you know what I mean.

Get one of these originals [screenless shuffle to which the Tera user interface concept based on] and you'll be amazed how well they sound while modestly priced should you always fancy screen less players.     http://www.apple.com/ipod-shuffle/