ZMF Aegis Official Thread

Oct 19, 2024 at 7:49 PM Post #3,271 of 5,616
I bought a pair of Melz 6N9S. Luckily they are not noisy. This combo (with Nevz 6F6M1) sounds more like solid state to me. I was using 807 ( red print ) and Sylvania VT-229 tubes before.


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Oct 19, 2024 at 9:29 PM Post #3,272 of 5,616
RCA 4R4GY + RCA 5691 Red Base + Reflektor 6П3С-Е = sublime for my ears. Moreover, the Reflektor tubes are very easy on my wallet at just USD 35.5 per pair 😁
Yes, one of the reasons I purchased them because they were so cheap because I also spent $285 for a pair of GEC KT66. :cold_sweat:
 
Oct 20, 2024 at 12:52 AM Post #3,273 of 5,616
I asked ChatGPT since I ended up with so many tubes :deadhorse:
Please give me the recommended combination for the ZMF Aegis for the following tubes:

Input:

  • Sylvania VT-229 JAN 6SL7
  • RCA 5691 Red Base 6SL7
  • JJ 6SL7
Output:
  • JJ EL34
  • Reflektor 6N3C-E
  • RCA 6L6GC Black Plate
  • Sylvania VT-107A JAN 6V6GT Black Glass
  • Mullard EL38
Rectifier:
  • Sovtek 5AR4
  • Mullard CV593
  • Svetlana 5C3S
  • RCA 5R4GY JAN CRC
the result:

Here are some recommended tube combinations for your ZMF Aegis headphone amplifier using the specific tubes you listed:

1. Warm, Vintage Sound with Smooth Mids
- Input: Sylvania VT-229 JAN 6SL7
- Offers a warm, vintage sound with smooth mids and excellent tonal balance, ideal for those seeking a classic tube sound.
- Output: Sylvania VT-107A JAN 6V6GT Black Glass
- Known for its smooth sound and natural compression. It provides a rich, midrange-focused tone with warm lows and non-fatiguing highs.
- Rectifier: Svetlana 5C3S (5U4G)
- Adds a touch of sag, contributing to a soft, vintage feel that complements the smoothness of the VT-229 and VT-107A.

Result: A warm, smooth sound with excellent midrange richness, ideal for laid-back listening sessions with a vintage touch.

2. Balanced and Detailed Sound

- Input: RCA 5691 Red Base 6SL7
- Known for its refined, detailed sound, this tube will bring clarity and smoothness to the overall presentation.
- Output: RCA 6L6GC Black Plate
- Offers a balanced tone with tight bass, clear mids, and smooth highs. It pairs well with the RCA 5691 for a clean, dynamic sound.
- Rectifier: Mullard CV593
- This rectifier provides a stable, smooth power supply, ensuring punchy, detailed sound without excessive sag.

Result: Balanced and detailed sound with tight bass and smooth mids, making it ideal for those who seek clarity and precision in their listening.

3. Dynamic and Punchy with Lively Mids

- Input: JJ 6SL7
- JJ tubes are known for their clean and punchy sound, offering a bit more high-end clarity and dynamic response compared to the vintage 6SL7s.
- Output: Mullard EL38
- A powerful tube with great dynamics and clarity. It adds punch and liveliness, perfect for a more energetic and forward sound.
- Rectifier: RCA 5R4GY JAN CRC
- This rectifier adds some vintage sag while maintaining strong dynamics, which pairs well with the JJ 6SL7 and EL38 for an engaging sound.

Result: Dynamic and punchy with lively mids, excellent for genres that benefit from strong bass and clear highs while still offering warmth.

4. Smooth and Relaxed with Natural Warmth
- Input: Sylvania VT-229 JAN 6SL7
- Warm and vintage, providing a smooth, natural sound with rich mids.
- Output: Reflektor 6N3C-E
- Known for its smooth highs and slightly laid-back mids, this tube will further enhance the relaxed, musical character.
- Rectifier: Sovtek 5AR4
- Provides a solid, tight power supply with minimal sag, adding a bit more control to the sound without compromising the smoothness.

Result: Smooth, relaxed, and warm sound, ideal for easy listening and long sessions where fatigue-free, natural sound is preferred.

5. Energetic with Clear Mids and Tight Bass

- Input: JJ 6SL7
- Adds punch and clarity to the sound, offering a more forward presentation in the midrange.
- Output: JJ EL34
- Known for its tight bass and clear mids, it offers a slightly brighter and more dynamic sound compared to the 6L6GC.
- Rectifier: Mullard CV593
- Ensures a stable and punchy power supply, maintaining tight control over dynamics and preventing excessive sag.

Result: An energetic sound with clear mids and tight bass, great for more dynamic, high-energy music.

Conclusion:


For your ZMF Aegis, here are the top combinations based on the characteristics you’re looking for:

- Warm and Vintage: Sylvania VT-229 + Sylvania VT-107A + Svetlana 5C3S
- Balanced and Detailed: RCA 5691 + RCA 6L6GC + Mullard CV593
- Dynamic and Punchy: JJ 6SL7 + Mullard EL38 + RCA 5R4GY
- Smooth and Relaxed: Sylvania VT-229 + Reflektor 6N3C-E + Sovtek 5AR4
- Energetic and Clear:JJ 6SL7 + JJ EL34 + Mullard CV593

These combinations will give you a wide range of tonal options, depending on your listening preferences!
This is fun! I guess I have to try the combinations myself to prove it. :L3000:
 
Oct 20, 2024 at 8:32 AM Post #3,274 of 5,616
I bought a pair of Melz 6N9S. Luckily they are not noisy. This combo (with Nevz 6F6M1) sounds more like solid state to me. I was using 807 ( red print ) and Sylvania VT-229 tubes before.


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Nice, what rectifier are you using?
 
Oct 20, 2024 at 10:44 AM Post #3,275 of 5,616
I asked ChatGPT since I ended up with so many tubes :deadhorse:

the result:


This is fun! I guess I have to try the combinations myself to prove it. :L3000:

My tube combo is definitely closest to #3 from ChatGPT in order to mesh with Susvara OG extremely well :)

Input: TJ Full Music 6SL7
Output: TAD KT66
Rectification: Mullard GZ32 D getter
 
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Oct 20, 2024 at 1:02 PM Post #3,276 of 5,616
I was kind of surprised by this purchase. Only $35 for the pair of output tubes: 6P3S Foton. Think these were from the ‘60s, so not the 50’s mentioned in past threads. But I can’t hear anything wrong with these combined with GZ34 and RCA 5691red base. It’s a very precise, controlled, dynamic sound, with decent sized soundstage with exact placement. Works perfect for the Caldera Open. Kind of the precision of solid state with the richness of tubes.

I didn’t want to spent the crazy money of El KT90 but have a pair of new Electro-Harmonix KT90EH coming tomorrow. If they sound better than the Foton, great, otherwise, think I’m done tube rolling and completely happy where I’m at for a while.

Also gave my Caldera Open a pad roll just to see if my preferences changed with the Aegis but back with the stock pads. The Aegis did make the soundstage of the thick pads more impressive and the suede pads sounded tighter and closer to stock but a hint less air.
 
Oct 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM Post #3,277 of 5,616
I asked ChatGPT since I ended up with so many tubes :deadhorse:

the result:


This is fun! I guess I have to try the combinations myself to prove it. :L3000:

Really excited for your thoughts and how the combo you have stacks with 5 different sound characters you and AI defined :)
 
Oct 20, 2024 at 8:50 PM Post #3,279 of 5,616
A fully-NOS armament for the USS Aegis 🤪:
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Brimar CV1863 (5Z4G), pair Fivre CV509 (6V6G), pair Ken-Rad VT-229 (6SL7). 🎼 🥲 🥲 🥲 🎶. Thank you so! @L0rdGwyn for the compatibility table.
 
Oct 21, 2024 at 5:02 AM Post #3,280 of 5,616
The variety of tubes you can roll in the Aegis is incredible. There are endless number of good combinations, depending on your DAC, headphones and taste. I am only at the beginning of this journey, tried 5 rectifiers, 5 output tubes and 3 input tubes so far (including all their combinations). A few more tubes coming in shortly.

So far with my Cyan 2 and Caldera open I tend to gravitate back to this combination: RCA 5R4GY, Tung Sol 6SL7GT and Gold Lion KT66. KT66 has better depth than EL34 and sounds smoother. Can be too warm with the wrong rectifier, but the RCA brings great dynamics that these output tubes need. KT88 is more balanced and more neutral, with very nice space but not quite as engaging as the smooth warmth of KT66. I am really curious to hear the EL38s, my next outputs.
There were some other nice combinations, like GZ32 with KT88, depending on what sound someone is looking for. I like a smooth and warm sound but with as much details and clarity as possible with great dynamics. Neither of my previous tube combinations were bad, I could be happy with many of them, but it is great to have the option of tuning into your personal preference even more. I am also curious to try a good NOS KT66 to see how much more I'd like that over the GLs. Plus, I'd like to try the Brimar version of the 5R4GY and perhaps the highly regarded 5691 to see if they add anything over my Tung Sols. :)

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Oct 21, 2024 at 7:46 AM Post #3,281 of 5,616
Does this rectifier work in the Aegis?
Is it already a U50 or not?

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Oct 21, 2024 at 7:52 AM Post #3,282 of 5,616
Does this rectifier work in the Aegis?
Is it already a U50 or not?

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That's a type 80, close to a 5Y3, but has a UX4 base, so you would need an adapter.
 
Oct 21, 2024 at 11:42 AM Post #3,283 of 5,616
The variety of tubes you can roll in the Aegis is incredible. There are endless number of good combinations, depending on your DAC, headphones and taste. I am only at the beginning of this journey, tried 5 rectifiers, 5 output tubes and 3 input tubes so far (including all their combinations). A few more tubes coming in shortly.

So far with my Cyan 2 and Caldera open I tend to gravitate back to this combination: RCA 5R4GY, Tung Sol 6SL7GT and Gold Lion KT66. KT66 has better depth than EL34 and sounds smoother. Can be too warm with the wrong rectifier, but the RCA brings great dynamics that these output tubes need. KT88 is more balanced and more neutral, with very nice space but not quite as engaging as the smooth warmth of KT66. I am really curious to hear the EL38s, my next outputs.
There were some other nice combinations, like GZ32 with KT88, depending on what sound someone is looking for. I like a smooth and warm sound but with as much details and clarity as possible with great dynamics. Neither of my previous tube combinations were bad, I could be happy with many of them, but it is great to have the option of tuning into your personal preference even more. I am also curious to try a good NOS KT66 to see how much more I'd like that over the GLs. Plus, I'd like to try the Brimar version of the 5R4GY and perhaps the highly regarded 5691 to see if they add anything over my Tung Sols. :)

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Nice photo editing! Curious what app you use to get that kind of photo highlight?

Anyways, KT66 will always have a more spherical approach to soundstage rather than wide expansive. You can still roll input and rectifier tubes to increase the soundstage and such. For me, the TAD KT66 (which is compressed sounding when completely new) has opened up that I do not miss any microdetails at all relative to the KT88 presentation. Also, the staging has increased in all directions yet still retains the spherical imaging that it has which to me is the more preferred presentation since it allows the energy of music to flow easier especially on super demanding headphones like the Tunsgten and Susvara OG. The TAD KT66 might be too thick with ZMF Calderas and as such, EL38s and 807s/ATS25 can be the golden ticket for those headphones. The GEC could be your ticket too for maximizing the detail for KT66 on your current input and rectifier tubes.
 
Oct 21, 2024 at 11:53 AM Post #3,284 of 5,616
Nice photo editing! Curious what app you use to get that kind of photo highlight?

Anyways, KT66 will always have a more spherical approach to soundstage rather than wide expansive. You can still roll input and rectifier tubes to increase the soundstage and such. For me, the TAD KT66 (which is compressed sounding when completely new) has opened up that I do not miss any microdetails at all relative to the KT88 presentation. Also, the staging has increased in all directions yet still retains the spherical imaging that it has which to me is the more preferred presentation since it allows the energy of music to flow easier especially on super demanding headphones like the Tunsgten and Susvara OG. The TAD KT66 might be too thick with ZMF Calderas and as such, EL38s and 807s/ATS25 can be the golden ticket for those headphones. The GEC could be your ticket too for maximizing the detail for KT66 on your current input and rectifier tubes.
Your comments sound good and align with my findings and preference so far. :thumbsup:
Photo edit was just the built in AI app in my Pixel 9.
 
Oct 21, 2024 at 12:00 PM Post #3,285 of 5,616
Your comments sound good and align with my findings and preference so far. :thumbsup:
Photo edit was just the built in AI app in my Pixel 9.

That's some nice app indeed! I have to get my phone photo editing game up so I can make awesome studio looking shots indeed :)

Glad you find my impressions helpful since that's how I've also heard some of the tubes behave the same way when I was using the ampsandsound Forge prior to upgrading to the Aegis. The tubes more or less retain their character on both amps indeed :)
 

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