Zähl HM1 - Reference Headphone Amplifier
Dec 11, 2023 at 11:25 PM Post #1,351 of 1,493
May also depend on the output voltage of your DAC. I don’t have LCD-5s, but even with my more sensitive headphones like the Elite, I am between 9-10 o’clock using balanced out. I am using a Holo Audio Spring DAC. For IEMs, it is a Little to much with my setup, however, I am impressed how fine adjustments the volume control on the HM1 allows.
My current dac does 4V output. It can do 5V but I left it at 4.

Getting the Ferrum Wandla in soonish. Should be a good pairing.
 
Dec 12, 2023 at 8:26 AM Post #1,352 of 1,493
do you have the input gain switch on perhaps? i dont have volume issues when using iems on it
Yeah it does turn out it somehow got switched on. Must have when I had it back in its box for a week and a half (didn't want to risk anybody over for thanksgiving to mess with it) get switched on somehow.
 
Dec 12, 2023 at 10:03 AM Post #1,353 of 1,493
Yeah it does turn out it somehow got switched on. Must have when I had it back in its box for a week and a half (didn't want to risk anybody over for thanksgiving to mess with it) get switched on somehow.
I had the same problem, I noticed clipping on a bunch of songs and I didn’t know why. took me a while to figure out I had somehow flipped the switch on the back haha. glad that was all it was 😅
 
Dec 14, 2023 at 4:31 PM Post #1,354 of 1,493
Dec 15, 2023 at 5:54 PM Post #1,356 of 1,493
So...am I understanding correctly that you have to pay the full amount up front (vs. a deposit)?
That’s how it was last year.
 
Dec 15, 2023 at 6:24 PM Post #1,357 of 1,493
So...am I understanding correctly that you have to pay the full amount up front (vs. a deposit)?
You pay the full amount upfront.
 
Dec 16, 2023 at 11:01 AM Post #1,359 of 1,493
Headphones.com takes half up front as a deposit.
Good to know. Last year they told me full deposit up front, so I chose to pass.
 
Dec 18, 2023 at 3:34 PM Post #1,360 of 1,493
I was thinking of whether it would be feasible to use the HM1 to drive monitors or speakers with higher sensitivity, but then power output at 3 ohms becomes important.

EDIT: Just checked out the Riviera AIC-10 it has 10 Wpc into 8 ohms so that's comparable and it has speaker taps. The Enleum 23-R states 45 Watts into 4 Ohms and 25 into 8. 3-ohm speaker compatibility will have to wait for the email response but at least HM1 should be able to drive whatever speakers people are using with their AIC-10.
Just got a reply from Michael:

Hello,
by your Email it came to my mind, that I never connected speakers to an HM1, even not for fun.

I wonder if you tried it meanwhile. It will not do any harm neither to the HM1 nor to the speakers, but I doubt that it would be a satisfying event.

From my experience, one of the most important basics in high end audio is abundance. Small table top speakers with a power rating of 10-20W should be able to reproduce impulses with at least 10-times the power, and the amplifier should be able to deliver this. Natural audio signals are extremely dynamic. They can only be reproduced authentically, if the reproductive device is extremely dynamic too.

With headphones we face a power requirement of typically 0,5W RMS per side (a very rough value). So the HM1 RMS power (sinusoidal signals) of 4W@30 Ohms and 7W@15 Ohms provides lots of headroom. The peak power (impulse-like signals) is even more, limited by a current limiting circuit. This current limiting circuit allows even higher power for 1,5ms (also refer to the technical data in the manual).

Impedance is another issue. The HM1's output impedance (0,8 Ohm in Class A mode and 0,045 Ohm in Class&Servo-Mode) provides a perfect damping factor for loads like headphones, which typically are in an impedance range of 25 to 100 Ohm, rarely 15 or even 10 Ohms. Speakers are typically in the 4 to 8 Ohm range, sometimes lower. So the output impedance of a speaker amplifier should take this into account.

Now you may think, if abundance regarding output power and output impedance is the clue, why not use a powerful speaker amplifier for driving my headphones?

The answer is that an amplifier design for rather small output power and an amplifier design for rather large output power are two very different things. A design for high output currents requires significantly more additional components and measures. Both in the power stage and in the power supply.

Now another principle in high-end audio comes into play: minimalism. No superfluous circuit parts. When developing a power amplifier for headphones, I don't have to worry about many things that are important when driving loudspeakers. The circuitry can be more straightforward. And I can say that this benefits the sound quality, especially the transparency.

Hope this makes sense for you.

All the best,

Michael


TL;DR: HM1 is stable into any load so no harm in hooking it up to some sensitive speakers, but it wasn't designed for it and Michael doesn't recommend it. No extra data for sub 10 ohms power figures.

I think it's absolutely fantastic that Michael personally responds to inquiries like this, it's the personal touch many modern companies lack!
I'll probably attempt to power some speakers with the HM1 anyway at some point, just have to cobble together a suitable adapter :)
 
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Dec 18, 2023 at 3:40 PM Post #1,361 of 1,493
Just got a reply from Michael:

Hello,
by your Email it came to my mind, that I never connected speakers to an HM1, even not for fun.

I wonder if you tried it meanwhile. It will not do any harm neither to the HM1 nor to the speakers, but I doubt that it would be a satisfying event.

From my experience, one of the most important basics in high end audio is abundance. Small table top speakers with a power rating of 10-20W should be able to reproduce impulses with at least 10-times the power, and the amplifier should be able to deliver this. Natural audio signals are extremely dynamic. They can only be reproduced authentically, if the reproductive device is extremely dynamic too.

With headphones we face a power requirement of typically 0,5W RMS per side (a very rough value). So the HM1 RMS power (sinusoidal signals) of 4W@30 Ohms and 7W@15 Ohms provides lots of headroom. The peak power (impulse-like signals) is even more, limited by a current limiting circuit. This current limiting circuit allows even higher power for 1,5ms (also refer to the technical data in the manual).

Impedance is another issue. The HM1's output impedance (0,8 Ohm in Class A mode and 0,045 Ohm in Class&Servo-Mode) provides a perfect damping factor for loads like headphones, which typically are in an impedance range of 25 to 100 Ohm, rarely 15 or even 10 Ohms. Speakers are typically in the 4 to 8 Ohm range, sometimes lower. So the output impedance of a speaker amplifier should take this into account.

Now you may think, if abundance regarding output power and output impedance is the clue, why not use a powerful speaker amplifier for driving my headphones?

The answer is that an amplifier design for rather small output power and an amplifier design for rather large output power are two very different things. A design for high output currents requires significantly more additional components and measures. Both in the power stage and in the power supply.

Now another principle in high-end audio comes into play: minimalism. No superfluous circuit parts. When developing a power amplifier for headphones, I don't have to worry about many things that are important when driving loudspeakers. The circuitry can be more straightforward. And I can say that this benefits the sound quality, especially the transparency.

Hope this makes sense for you.

All the best,

Michael


TL;DR: HM1 is stable into any load so no harm in hooking it up to some sensitive speakers, but it wasn't designed for it and Michael doesn't recommend it. No extra data for sub 10 ohms power figures.

I think it's absolutely fantastic that Michael personally responds to inquiries like this, it's the personal touch many modern companies lack!
I'll probably attempt to power some speakers with the HM1 anyway at some point, just have to cobble together a suitable adapter :)
Please let us know how you make out. I am curious. Tks.
 
Dec 20, 2023 at 4:58 PM Post #1,362 of 1,493
It’s that time.

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Dec 20, 2023 at 7:51 PM Post #1,364 of 1,493

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